From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: jean haidouk Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] input-method: french "e dans l'o" Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 11:01:42 +0200 Message-ID: <230621378544502@web20m.yandex.ru> References: <56541378449115@web23m.yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1378544519 25757 80.91.229.3 (7 Sep 2013 09:01:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 09:01:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: Drew Adams , Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 07 11:02:02 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VIEP3-0001uC-Ve for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 11:02:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41213 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VIEP3-0005GB-Kj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 05:02:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33562) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VIEOw-0005F6-Fc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 05:01:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VIEOo-00016N-OP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 05:01:54 -0400 Original-Received: from forward7.mail.yandex.net ([77.88.61.37]:43378) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VIEOo-000161-EF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 05:01:46 -0400 Original-Received: from web20m.yandex.ru (web20m.yandex.ru [37.140.138.111]) by forward7.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 3999B1C20C7; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 13:01:43 +0400 (MSK) Original-Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by web20m.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id B82FEC206B7; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 13:01:42 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1378544502; bh=0CQ2n3uuH705ui7CorkG7eHOOyuo11B0jeoR39UM1vk=; h=From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:Date; b=ra9wjvBj5U+N/wF8AR3E0NCnjzzgGoljYvVTT69TWapxorh/f1gju3T860B0cOkG9 vBqCyYLbVJArsNmjGe5lf1NS6SAcz2wbhiBljW1C0c8paNksIoie2pkHAuBXa2Ct90 4Ff30suUm8dQ81x8ohW3aF9NexupENjQsUbvRLl0= Original-Received: from sat78-12-83-157-59-146.fbx.proxad.net (sat78-12-83-157-59-146.fbx.proxad.net [83.157.59.146]) by web20m.yandex.ru with HTTP; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 13:01:42 +0400 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 77.88.61.37 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:163250 Archived-At: Yes, you definitely want the raw `oe' like in words: po=C3=AAle, moelleux= , No=C3=ABl, po=C3=A9sie, po=C3=A8te, coentreprise, coefficient... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%92#French So OE will be far more frequent than O/ (postfix input) or /O (prefix inp= ut) and so far more annoying when typing a french text.=20 I kept O/ /O because it was already chosen for the latin-9-input, and it = seems better to have an uniform character sequence across all input metho= ds. And for the national specific input method, since =C3=98 does not exi= sts in french, there is no clash. Jean 07.09.2013, 01:23, "Drew Adams" : >>> =C2=A0+=C5=92 est produit par O/." >> =C2=A0Why not "OE", which seems more intuitive, and also has the advan= tage of >> =C2=A0not overriding the O/ =3D> =C3=98 mapping? > > Are there cases where you sometimes want "l'o dans l'e" and you sometim= es > want "oe"? =C2=A0Dunno. =C2=A0What about proper names. =C2=A0(Or maybe = there is a way > to override such abbreviation/composition?)