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From: raman@google.com (T.V Raman)
To: jwiegley@gmail.com
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, raman@google.com
Subject: Re: Proposed new core library: alert.el
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 09:22:18 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <22076.57802.196862.129958@retriever.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2mvur9kcp.fsf@newartisans.com>

In general, here is what I've learnt over the years using Advice --

It's a low-friction means of  investigating various "locii of change"
in complex code-bases --- it's friction-free (almost) in that if you
beleive  that some complex piece of code could do with some change,
you dont have to have long discussions with the owners of that code --
nor do you spend a lot of cycles investing in complex changes -- only
to discover you were wrong. Actually, if you make comple complex
changes,  most of the time (approx 50%) you end up in a position where
you find you were only "half right" ie (also "half wrong") --- and
given that by then you've made the changes, it becomes difficult --
both technically and emotionally to revert the changes and go back to
the start state. 

Advice works around these social and technical problems by letting you
try  multiple alternatives, figuring out the "right answer" and
finally making the more complex change. 



John Wiegley writes:
 > >>>>> raman  <raman@google.com> writes:
 > 
 > > Wasn't suggesting that as a final solution in core, more as a means of
 > > quickly trying it out and ironing out the kinks.
 > 
 > Ah, yes, in that case it would be a perfect thing for trying it out.
 > 
 > John

-- 

-- 



      reply	other threads:[~2015-11-06 17:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-05  2:05 Proposed new core library: alert.el John Wiegley
2015-11-05  9:14 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-05  9:21 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-05 11:39   ` Sven Axelsson
2015-11-05 16:09     ` Random832
2015-11-05 16:24 ` raman
2015-11-05 16:33 ` Vivek Dasmohapatra
2015-11-05 17:09   ` joakim
2015-11-05 17:09   ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-05 18:21   ` John Wiegley
2015-11-06 22:31     ` T.V Raman
2015-11-06 21:38   ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-07 13:20     ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-07 13:39       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-05 19:48 ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-05 20:03   ` John Wiegley
2015-11-05 20:23     ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-05 20:33       ` John Wiegley
2015-11-05 22:24         ` Bozhidar Batsov
2015-11-06 10:04         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-06 15:32           ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-06 15:52             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-06 16:01               ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-06 16:20               ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-06 17:56                 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-06 18:10                   ` message-function (was: Proposed new core library: alert.el) Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-06 19:03                     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-07 13:31                       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-07 13:39                         ` message-function Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-06 21:20                 ` Proposed new core library: alert.el John Wiegley
2015-11-07 13:26                   ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-07 10:40             ` Elias Mårtenson
     [not found]             ` <m2io5e6d39.fsf@newartisans.com>
2015-11-07 12:28               ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-07 13:09                 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-07 13:44                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-08 20:49                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-11-09  0:03                       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-09 21:50                 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-10 18:34                   ` Posting new feature proposals on the wiki? (was: Re: Proposed new core library: alert.el) Nicolas Petton
2015-11-10 18:40                     ` Posting new feature proposals on the wiki? John Wiegley
2015-11-11 16:14                     ` raman
2015-11-11 16:43                       ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 17:35                         ` T.V Raman
2015-11-11 23:27                           ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-11 23:40                             ` T.V Raman
2015-11-12 11:16                               ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-12 16:40                                 ` T.V Raman
2015-11-12 22:34                               ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-16 16:52                                 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-16 17:03                                   ` raman
2015-11-06 15:50           ` Proposed new core library: alert.el John Wiegley
2015-11-06  1:47     ` raman
2015-11-06  2:16       ` John Wiegley
2015-11-06  9:47         ` Rasmus
2015-11-06 10:42           ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-06 11:27             ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-11-06  9:50         ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-06 10:07           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-06 13:59             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-11-06 16:12         ` raman
2015-11-06 16:13           ` John Wiegley
2015-11-06 17:22             ` T.V Raman [this message]

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