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Wed, 05 Feb 2020 09:55:41 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.0.103] ([94.229.108.16]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id t9sm93604lfl.51.2020.02.05.09.55.40 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 05 Feb 2020 09:55:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:175706 Archived-At: On 05.02.2020 17:27, João Távora wrote: > With the original problem fixed, Dmitry came to what can be seen as a > UI deficiency in fido-mode. Not exactly. There have been several issues discussed in this report, and it's really a problem that the user can't easily input something that completing-read would allow. A new bug report has arrived since: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=39407 It is now erroneously marked as fixed because it has been merged with this one. We should undo that. The proposed workaround (using M-j) is itself problematic since it allows you to input whatever even when a match is required. So there are bug here. > After analysing this with Stefan, we arrived > at the conclusion that it was actually a problem in some longstanding > minibuffer.el workings. Not exactly. At least, icomplete-mode seems to work okay in both of these respects (please correct me if I'm wrong). > Maybe, Dmitry, we could revert to the earlier proposal with the new > variable and somehow deprecate/discourage use of the one you're > trying to change?  That should be safe and bring all the benefits of > your change, right? Yes, we can do that. I'll make the new variable private, so we can rid of it quickly on master.