From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Gian Uberto Lauri" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Replace with CR Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 10:49:15 +0200 Message-ID: <21914.16651.717718.213673@mail.eng.it> References: <871tgmvcp9.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> Reply-To: Gian Uberto Lauri NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1436172577 25857 80.91.229.3 (6 Jul 2015 08:49:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 08:49:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 06 10:49:37 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZC25n-0004IA-Ox for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Jul 2015 10:49:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49589 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZC25m-0006Zl-TZ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Jul 2015 04:49:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55902) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZC25b-0006Ze-Gb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jul 2015 04:49:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZC25W-0003Zy-Dm for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jul 2015 04:49:23 -0400 Original-Received: from relay.eng.it ([91.109.60.38]:46703 helo=mail.eng.it) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZC25W-0003Zp-74 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jul 2015 04:49:18 -0400 Original-Received: from MAVK-2 (unknown [192.168.10.72]) by deliver.antivirus (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E79444019; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 10:49:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from quigley (unknown [172.27.7.115]) by mail.eng.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CAC044015; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 10:49:16 +0200 (CEST) Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 8.1.1 under 24.4.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-attribution: CC X-echelon-food: Cancelled CIM Department of Homeland Security IRA BND TB NVD ReMOB infowar BZ ACC radar propaganda Mantis SGC X-KLMS-Rule-ID: 1 X-KLMS-Message-Action: clean X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Status: not scanned, disabled by settings X-KLMS-AntiPhishing: Clean, 2015/07/03 14:09:17 X-KLMS-AntiVirus: Kaspersky Security 8.0 for Linux Mail Server, version 8.0.1.705, bases: 2015/07/06 04:01:00 #8185504; khse: 2014-03-12 13:55:01 X-KLMS-AntiVirus-Status: Clean, skipped X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 91.109.60.38 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:105480 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > > Again, there's no such thing as ENTER. The key is RETURN. >=20 > FWIW, my keyboard (US thinkpad) has no "RETURN", but it does have a = key > labelled "Enter". I have "Return" on my old VIC20, but I doubt Emacs will be ever ported there... "Return" was a tty-derivative labeling and was once common, even when it sent a LF o CR/LF[1] pair. Enter is much common now and closer to semantic the keys has today for most computer users. Enough common to build jokes on, see the two strips I posted. [1] for those who still do not know it: the pair is CR/LF and not LF/CR because on old TTY the carriage return was a longer operation that could be controlled without keeping the tty controller busy: you could start the head carriage, and while the it was going home move the paper drum one line. --=20 /\ =5F=5F=5F Ubuntu: anci= ent /=5F=5F=5F/\=5F|=5F|\=5F|=5F=5F|=5F=5F=5FGian Uberto Lauri=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= African word //--\| | \| | Integralista GNUslamico meaning "I can \/ coltivatore diretto di software not install gi=E0 sistemista a tempo (altrui) perso... Debian" Warning: gnome-config-daemon considered more dangerous than GOTO