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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256558 Archived-At: On September 25, 2020 12:34:27 PM GMT+02:00, Fermin wr= ote: >Seems like conclave is no longer maintained=2E >What so you think about putting encryption in the default Rudel sever? > >It seems that works well, but I don't know how hard this can be=2E > Just to record in the thread for future discussions on this topic=2E After some emails the author of libinfinity confimed that the project is t= otally dead and he advices not to use it for future projects anymore=2E So IMO rudel is also dead as it relies on libinfinity=2E=2E=2E unless some= one decides to maintain libinfinity=2E Or create a fork or an alternative= =2E Best, Ergus >On 25 September 2020 02:22:39 CEST, Ergus wrote: >>On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 11:41:27PM +0200, Fermin wrote: >>>This is a great feature for Emacs, thanks to show me the existence of >>Rudel, maybe the easiest aproach is to make it work with >>>https://github=2Ecom/gobby/libinfinit >>> >>>Seems quite active, and the client is in a unstable state=2EWhat so you >>guys think ? >>> >>>Regards=2E >>> >>Hi I am trying to find documentation about this and it seems there is >>not too much available around about libinfinity; but it is installed >in >>my system, so it is a "stable" package somehow=2E >> >>The only issue I see so far is that it is oriented to gtk applications >>which could be a problem for practical uses=2E >> >>OTOH I would prefer something less centralized with a p2p like >>conclave; >>but I am open to any idea that works=2E >> >>There is also Teletype and Tandem=2E=2E=2E the first for Atom and the ot= her >>is >>supposed to work with Sublime, Neovim and Apache=2E Which is very >>attractive IMO because somehow will break our own burble to interact >>with the rest of the world=2E=2E=2E But they have a node=2Ejs client-ser= ver >and >>I am not sure how efficient will be to use that requiring python3 too=2E >> >>>On 24 September 2020 03:36:55 CEST, Ergus wrote: --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E