From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: auto-fill breaks line too early Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:05:16 -0800 Message-ID: <21766676E82D414FB1D125B4BD113055@us.oracle.com> References: <7c540f57-66b9-410b-92f2-66d7327480aa@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1353812739 16125 80.91.229.3 (25 Nov 2012 03:05:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 03:05:39 +0000 (UTC) To: "'David Combs'" , Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 25 04:05:47 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TcSXS-0006nn-AY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 04:05:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40035 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcSXH-0001rY-GY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 22:05:35 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38680) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcSXC-0001rC-T9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 22:05:31 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcSXB-0000CT-Un for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 22:05:30 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:44507) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcSXB-0000CP-OM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 22:05:29 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id qAP35Rpe013750 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 25 Nov 2012 03:05:27 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qAP35Qwu010198 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 25 Nov 2012 03:05:26 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt113.oracle.com (abhmt113.oracle.com [141.146.116.65]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id qAP35QHH015571; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 21:05:26 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:05:25 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac3KrGriCty8Bc95SJCkNMFbLYMyhAADMxcg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:87891 Archived-At: > So I guess the oft-used M-x delete-trailing-whitespace screws up > any use of M-q? Why do you say that? Did you try it? > ... it's a surprise to me that a period (or ! or ?, etc) > meant to end a sentence line requires two spaces, which is > fine in the middle of a line, would still obtain at the end > of a line. > > Perhaps in that double-space mode the emacs user could avoid > ending a line with a period UNLESS that period was to mean > "end of sentence". > > Like, he'd have to teach himself to never end a line with > a mid-sentence abbreviation. And he'd never get into that > mode except by deliberately invoking it, plus when he did > enter that mode a message would flash up warning him about > how NOT to end a line. It makes no difference whether a line ends in `.'. M-q still respects the two-space rule if `sentence-end-double-space' is non-nil. Seems like you went to a lot of trouble (mis)interpreting the doc, without actually trying it. (Unless of course I misunderstand what you are saying.) > > --- > > Question: do other emacs users find delete-trailing-whitespace > useful? > > Crazy idea? Maybe in that two-spaces mode, delete-trailing-whitespace > would know to NOT remove two spaces following a sentence-ender? > > > A problem, all this. > > David > > PS: And oh, yes, I very much like the two-spaces-between-sentences way > of entering and storing text. >