From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bill Wohler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: RMAIL, MIME-related bug Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:01:04 -0800 Organization: Newt Software Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <21753.1067306464@newt.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1067306785 18736 80.91.224.253 (28 Oct 2003 02:06:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 02:06:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, Satyaki Das , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 28 03:06:22 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AEJFW-0004Ya-00 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:06:22 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AEJFW-0006Rm-00 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:06:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AEJE0-0003ln-Uw for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:04:48 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AEJC4-0003MP-4a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:02:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AEJBW-00030i-UW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:02:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [63.205.67.171] (helo=olgas.newt.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AEJAz-0002kQ-NT; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:01:43 -0500 Original-Received: from wohler (helo=newt.com) by olgas.newt.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AEJAO-0005es-00; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:01:04 -0800 Original-To: rms@gnu.org X-Mailer: MH-E 7.4.2+cvs; nmh 1.1-RC1; GNU Emacs 21.2.1 X-Image-URL: http://www.newt.com/wohler/images/bill-diving.png X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17485 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17485 Richard Stallman writes: > I am a huge fan of mail indexing programs like: swish++, mairix, > glimpse, namazu etc. > > I seem to recall that glimpse is or was non-free. I don't know about > the others. Can you check which of these are non-free? We don't > want Gnus or MH-E to refer to them. Glimpse support was dropped from CVS MH-E today. A poll of MH-E users revealed one glimpse user who was going to switch to another indexer anyway, and another who was happy to switch, so there wasn't much pain involved. I use swish++ myself. As Satyaki mentioned, Juri's concerns are unfounded with modern indexers like swish that do base64 and qp decoding. MH-E can find text in a base64 message somewhere in all of your mail and display it in a second. We also support a default search engine called grep which does suffer Yuri's concerns however. Note that the Emacs mailcrypt package does have the option to write a decrypted mail message back to the disk, which I find to be a useful option since typing the pass phrase over and over again is a pain and most times, encryption is used to protect the message in transport, not on my disk. I also don't think there would be any harm in saving the decoded base64 and qp body parts, just as long you left the body parts intact and set the Content-Transfer-Encoding as necessary (8bit, for example) so that these messages could be recoded if forwarded. I don't see any benefit either. -- Bill Wohler http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane.