From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: 23.0.60; describe-char gives wrong information Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:40:22 +0100 Message-ID: <21707F94-9353-4F39-814B-F10146374B18@Freenet.DE> References: <3167E3EC-A084-4229-9531-AC3E5BDF69BB@Freenet.DE> <60200667-2BCD-4D24-BC0F-700361E632A2@Freenet.DE> <37765195-4505-4662-AE93-5B78556F67F6@Freenet.DE> <7A846B7D-1005-463E-B704-81895DD7FBDC@Freenet.DE> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1201538463 7873 80.91.229.12 (28 Jan 2008 16:41:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:41:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org To: Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 28 17:41:23 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JJX2w-0001CC-K8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:41:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JJX2W-0004v1-2Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:40:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JJX2G-0004nU-KI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:40:40 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JJX2F-0004mP-4k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:40:39 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JJX2E-0004m9-TQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:40:38 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JJX2E-0002vX-Rb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:40:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JJX2D-0003AM-Tn for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:40:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JJX2B-0002uF-A0 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:40:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([195.4.92.91]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JJX2A-0002t7-Kn for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:40:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.4.92.16] (helo=6.mx.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JJX25-0002yK-4o; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:40:29 +0100 Original-Received: from fcd4e.f.ppp-pool.de ([195.4.205.78]:50800 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by 6.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 25) (Exim 4.68 #9) id 1JJX24-00005K-KQ; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:40:29 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:87717 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:20795 Archived-At: Am 15.01.2008 um 09:18 schrieb Kenichi Handa: > Did that slowness happen only after my recent change? I installed an update from CVS on the weekend. I tried to improve =20 compilation and configuration. Then I stopped times. Launching with '-Q --disable-font-backend' it takes 25 sec to become =20 ready, 10 sec to perform C-h H, and 2 sec to scroll forward. Launching without '--disable-font-backend' it takes 25 sec to become =20 ready, then it takes almost 2 min until text from C-h H appears, and =20 then it takes another 7 min until the hollow cursor is filled and GNU =20= Emacs accepts input. Scroll-forward takes over 2 min. Quitting, C-x =20 c, takes almost 4 min ... With ``-J:%%- HELLO =B4=B4 starts mode-line when launched without = '--=20 disable-font-backend.' With this option mode-line starts with: ``-J:%=20 *- HELLO =B4=B4 and when quitting GNU Emacs asks whether saving = HELLO. In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, GTK+ Version 2.6.10) of 2008-01-27 on Latsche.local Windowing system distributor `The XFree86 Project, Inc', version =20 11.0.40400000 configured using `configure '--enable-font-backend' '--with-x-=20 toolkit=3Dgtk' '--with-dbus' '--without-pop' '--without-sound' '--=20 enable-locallisppath=3D/Library/Application Support/Emacs/calendar22:/=20= Library/Application Support/Emacs/caml:/Library/Application Support/=20 Emacs:/sw/share/emacs21/site-lisp/elib' 'PKG_CONFIG_PATH=3D/sw/lib/=20 freetype219/lib/pkgconfig:/sw/lib/fontconfig2/lib/pkgconfig:/sw/lib/=20 pkgconfig:/sw/share/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/local/lib/=20 pkgconfig:/usr/X11R6/lib/pkgconfig' 'CPPFLAGS=3D-no-cpp-precomp -=20 D__BIND_NOSTATIC -I/usr/include/openssl -I/sw/include/pango-1.0 -I/sw/=20= lib/fontconfig2/include -I/sw/lib/freetype219/include -I/sw/lib/=20 freetype219/include/freetype2 -I/sw/include -I/usr/local/include -=20 idirafter /usr/X11R6/include' 'CFLAGS=3D-ggdb -gfull -Wno-pointer-sign -=20= bind_at_load -pipe -fPIC -mcpu=3D7450 -mtune=3D7450 -fast' 'LDFLAGS=3D-=20= dead_strip -multiply_defined suppress -L/sw/lib/ncurses -L/sw/lib/=20 fontconfig2/lib -L/sw/lib/freetype219/lib -L/sw/lib -L/usr/local/lib -=20= L/usr/X11R6/lib'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default-enable-multibyte-characters: t (C debugging is enabled because both, GNU Emacs 23.0.60 and 23.0.50, =20 show crashes when I insert with the mouse text I copied before with =20 the mouse. Could be it happens only in situations when Mac OS X uses =20 more than 2 GB of allocated swap space on disk, on a different volume/=20= slice/partition.) -- Greetings Pete There's something the technicians need to learn from the artists. If =20 it isn't aesthetically pleasing, it's probably wrong.