From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xah Lee Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to get rid of *GNU Emacs* buffer on start-up? Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <2165a475-f39f-4cea-a6ca-db108bea1b04@n38g2000prl.googlegroups.com> References: <873ajzwoqu.fsf@kobe.laptop> <823901dd-c54c-4e3b-b6ad-512d52724a46@z11g2000prl.googlegroups.com> <05017720-90bf-4899-8cf5-1286f0dac77d@s20g2000prd.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1221871328 21350 80.91.229.12 (20 Sep 2008 00:42:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:42:08 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 20 02:43:05 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KgqYz-00040Q-FB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 02:43:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39847 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KgqXy-0008Ek-4R for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:42:02 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!n38g2000prl.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 93 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.6.185.159 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1221869568 28435 127.0.0.1 (20 Sep 2008 00:12:48 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: n38g2000prl.googlegroups.com; posting-host=24.6.185.159; posting-account=qPxGtQkAAADb6PWdLGiWVucht1ZDR6fn User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10_4_11; en) AppleWebKit/525.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.2 Safari/525.22, gzip(gfe), gzip(gfe) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:162484 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:57825 Archived-At: On Sep 19, 9:39 am, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > XahLee wrote: > > Hi Eli moron, > > U wrote: > >> If you want people to listen to your ideas seriously, you will wish to > >> make a point of expressing them accurately. > > Please understand, that the level of precision and time spend in > > writing needed depends on the context. You would be a fool, to spend > > one year to compose a newsgroup post. And, you would be moron if you > > nickpick on spellings and phrasings that are not critical to the main > > ideas. > > Sometimes,Xah, your spellings and phrasings, to say nothing of your > wierd variable length quotes with dangling bits, make your message all > but indecipherable. you think? could it be that your criticial thinking and readings skills are not mature enough? Seriously. I recommend you read some of my literature annotations on my website: =E2=80=A2 The Tale Of The Bull And The Ass http://xahlee.org/p/arabian_nights/an2.html =E2=80=A2 The Tragedy Of Titus Andronicus http://xahlee.org/p/titus/titus.html =E2=80=A2 Politics and the English Language http://xahlee.org/p/george_orwell_english.html > Eli has one up on you there. English isn't his native language either, > yet he manages to convey his ideas with style and panache. you think? > > I'm not sure ur a moron, but i wondered, because in my previous > > message i specifically pointed out that please focus on main ideas. > > You seem to me don't have much general education to sufficiently > > understand the situation, but gave a retort about precision that is > > typical of sophomorons. > > OK, back to the main point. It seems that `switch-to-buffer' (C-x b) > does pretty much what you want. The question is not about whether it =E2=80=9Cpretty much=E2=80=9D does. No= r is it about whether what i want. The issue, is about a problem with emacs's =E2=80=9C*scratch*=E2=80=9D buff= er, and how the 2 alternative practical existing ways to create empty buffer each are unfit for the purpose. I detailed them in my article: http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization_scratch_buffer.html Please u peruse of it. > Except you seem upset that when you do > M-x kill-buffer, Emacs kills the buffer. I'd be unhappy if it didn't. The issue is not about whether i'm upset. Nor is it about whether kill- buffer not killing the buffer. Please think. > Actually, you'd be better typing C-x k. All you want, I think, is that > Emacs should give you a warning when you're about to kill such a buffer. Huh? what r u talking about? > Why don't you implement this and post it up? It's not rocket science, > and you do have a basic grasp of Emacs Lisp. You seem to expect that > somebody else should do the work of implementing your ideas - that's > just not the way things work. Implement it now - it should take more > than an hour or two to modify C-x b - then we can try it out to see how > good it actually is. > > > Fuck you. > > Xah, don't try to fuck - you're not very good at it. Write some Elisp > instead. The issue is not about fucking. Please focuse on the issue if u are interested in discussing it. Xah =E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/ =E2=98=84