From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Need an enabler for a bad habit. Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 18:55:24 +0100 Message-ID: <215C95B8-AB1A-472D-AB46-FE1E7D413CFA@Web.DE> References: <877iygcrtx.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <1162399115.2545.43.camel@CASE> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1162403764 6383 80.91.229.2 (1 Nov 2006 17:56:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 17:56:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: GNU Emacs List Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 01 18:56:01 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfKJY-0002tH-HP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:55:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfKJX-0007KZ-P5 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:55:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GfKJK-0007KU-Ct for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:55:34 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GfKJF-0007Es-57 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:55:34 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfKJF-0007El-1u for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:55:29 -0500 Original-Received: from [217.72.192.234] (helo=fmmailgate03.web.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfKJF-0002yw-1O for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:55:29 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp08.web.de (fmsmtp08.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.216]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8E43141460; Wed, 1 Nov 2006 18:55:27 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [87.193.63.47] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp08.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (WEB.DE 4.107 #114) id 1GfKJC-0008OJ-00; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:55:26 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1162399115.2545.43.camel@CASE> Original-To: William Case X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Sender: Peter_Dyballa@web.de X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:38466 Archived-At: Am 01.11.2006 um 17:38 schrieb William Case: > I want to reconfirm, I am not advocating that others may want this or > that it is something emacs should automatically do. How long were you using DM (or is it PM?) in Aegis from Apollo =20 Domain? Probably this one built up your bad habit (decades ago?). I'd like to suggest to use eshell in perhaps an extra frame, which =20 then can be as small as one line, I think, without tool-bar, without =20 scroll-bar, possibly some hook or eshell init file can switch off all =20= this decoration. It will give you access to a lot of Emacs Lisp =20 functions (or even all?) =96 and a UNIX shell with all the typical UNIX =20= tools! The mini-buffer is kind of a process that needs to get launched every =20= time in order to accept some input. The launcher is M-x. IMO eshell =20 can be such an always-on mini-buffer (substitute) ... -- Greetings Pete ~ o ~_\\_/\ ~ O O