From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: Customize buffer: how to show values of unchanged options on Emacs24.1? Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 20:53:42 -0700 Message-ID: <2154CC49526D49C1BEEEC1BE6B5666B0@us.oracle.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1343361236 17966 80.91.229.3 (27 Jul 2012 03:53:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 03:53:56 +0000 (UTC) To: "'Raffaele Ricciardi'" , Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 27 05:53:57 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Subci-0001x8-L9 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 05:53:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37433 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Subci-0004rZ-2R for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 23:53:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45996) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Subcc-0004rF-N5 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 23:53:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Subcb-0004pn-Il for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 23:53:50 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:39318) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Subcb-0004pR-CX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 23:53:49 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q6R3riWu010867 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 27 Jul 2012 03:53:45 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q6R3ricc013080 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 27 Jul 2012 03:53:44 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt108.oracle.com (abhmt108.oracle.com [141.146.116.60]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q6R3rhec019068; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 22:53:43 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 20:53:43 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Thread-Index: Ac1riLFsDYRy4FiPRoGk4yXqzVQ8VwAHEpmA X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 141.146.126.227 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:86102 Archived-At: > From the "GNU Emacs NEWS" on GNU Emacs 24.1: > > > *** Custom options now start out hidden if at their default values. > > Use the arrow to the left of the option name to toggle visibility. > > Is there a way to revert to the old behaviour, e.g. to always > show the values of options, no matter whether they have been > customized or not? > > I think I have tried every seemingly related option in the Custom > customization group and relative subgroups. Actually, I see that NEWS item, but I do not think I see that behavior, IIUC. In emacs -Q, for instance, if I do `M-x customize-option auto-coding-alist', I see the full standard (uncustomized) value immediately. (I'm using MS Windows, in case that makes a difference.) At any rate, if some Customize behavior does not seem right to you, or if it does not seem understandable or correctly documented, then consider filing a bug report or an enhancement request. You can do either of those things using `M-x report-emacs-bug'. Perhaps see also bugs #11655 and #12065, which likewise have to do with hiding/showing information in Customize. http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=11655 http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=12065