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X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c02::249 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:173445 Archived-At: I see --- apologies for the some what harsh note of my original response in that case. For an instant, I thought you were talking about changing emacs behavior for all users. Craig Muth writes: > > See the function set-input-mode. > > Thanks - I tried a few different values and was sort of able to make > headway, but each thing I try has tradeoffs. Mostly because of the > stupid way > > > This would be *an awful* idea -- a lot of long term emacs users -- > > myself included -- hit ESC > > I agree with you, re changing ESC's behavior for existing emacs users. > My case is different though. I'm using emacs as an engine (so to > speak), where users won't even have to know they're in emacs. I think > there's a ton of runway for using emacs like this - as an > engine/framework for console apps. > > --Craig