From: raman@google.com (T.V Raman)
To: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, raman@google.com
Subject: Re: Feature Request: Per-package custom save files?
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 09:40:07 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <21418.64359.745530.259301@retriever.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv7g46z19x.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
Like I said -- (1) is not relevant to me -- not sure why you
spent a whole paragraph beating that dead horse;-)
Where my custom file has broken:
when custom settings that are large s-expressions break during
save -- say the partial sexp gets saved, the whole file breaks.
Examples of large customization settings:
1. Newsticker -- list of feeds
2. keybinding lists from various packages.
Anyway as I said, I have a soution that works for me -- personal
git repo and cron joab that backs up my custom settings.
Stefan Monnier writes:
> > Once the custom settings are split out:
> > 1. Load on demand
>
> I don't see any need for it. The time to load a single customization file
> should be negligible unless it's *really* large or causes loading other
> files (e.g. if some of the customizations enable minor modes).
>
> And doing it "on-demand" might be very difficult. E.g. you can't delay
> "activate global-reveal-mode" to when reveal.el is loaded, since it's the
> activation of global-reveal-mode which would cause loading reveal.el.
> And it's this loading which takes the time, so delaying the other
> reveal-related settings would be pointless since these take
> a ridiculously small amount of time.
>
> If we want to speed up startup, there are several things we can do, but
> I don't think any of them would be helped by splitting the
> customization file.
>
> > 2. Smaller, more manageable custom files.
>
> We can cut the file in chunks, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily
> more manageable.
>
> > The reason this bubbled up for me is that in the past few months I've
> > had to go back in time to retrieve a custom file from my local git repo
> > because the giant custom file got corrupted during an emacs custom-save
> > at some point -- I've not chased down the culprit -- but when that
> > happens, you're left with a giant file that is impossible to fix by
> > hand.
>
> Can you give details of the difficulties you encountered?
> Would they have been different if the customizations were split
> among several files, each of them similarly corrupted?
> Or would it only be different under the assumption that the corruption
> would have affected a single file, thus reducing the amount of corruption?
>
> The customization file should contain 2 parts: the face settings and the
> var settings. Each part should be sorted alphabetically which (due to
> the prefix-convention we use for names) should largely group settings
> "by package".
>
> So splitting the "one big file" into several smaller files would not
> really change any ordering.
>
> > I now regularly git commit my .custom file to a local repo just
> > for this reason
>
> I do that as well, tho not for this reason.
>
>
> Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-25 16:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-06-21 15:42 Feature Request: Per-package custom save files? T. V. Raman
2014-06-21 15:55 ` David Kastrup
2014-06-21 16:45 ` John Yates
2014-06-21 17:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-23 16:52 ` T.V Raman
2014-06-23 19:30 ` chad
2014-06-23 21:11 ` T.V Raman
2014-06-23 21:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-23 21:17 ` T.V Raman
2014-06-24 1:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-24 14:55 ` raman
2014-06-24 17:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-25 16:40 ` T.V Raman [this message]
2014-06-25 17:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-25 18:01 ` T.V Raman
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