From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ulrich Mueller Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17702: 24.3; insert-char no longer inserts "bell" control character Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 23:26:18 +0200 Message-ID: <21392.57466.295650.170830@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> References: <21392.31505.332595.525782@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <83oay75qhu.fsf@gnu.org> <21392.38411.953699.311610@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <83a99r5k9l.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1402003647 9627 80.91.229.3 (5 Jun 2014 21:27:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 21:27:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 17702@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 05 23:27:20 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WsfBs-00021G-RR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 23:27:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43859 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WsfBs-0002Us-CK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 17:27:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38809) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WsfBj-0002T0-Vd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 17:27:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WsfBe-0007t0-DE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 17:27:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:47293) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WsfBe-0007ss-AY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 17:27:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WsfBd-0005w2-PE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 17:27:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ulrich Mueller Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 21:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17702 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 17702-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17702.140200359722770 (code B ref 17702); Thu, 05 Jun 2014 21:27:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 17702) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jun 2014 21:26:37 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46170 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WsfBB-0005v2-7N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 17:26:37 -0400 Original-Received: from a1www.kph.uni-mainz.de ([134.93.134.1]:51997) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WsfB8-0005ud-9w for 17702@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 17:26:31 -0400 Original-Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de [134.93.134.92]) by a1www.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s55LQNAj013252; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 23:26:24 +0200 Original-Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.8/8.14.2) with ESMTP id s55LQNpi002516; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 23:26:23 +0200 Original-Received: (from ulm@localhost) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) id s55LQN6i002503; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 23:26:23 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83a99r5k9l.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:90087 Archived-At: >>>>> On Thu, 05 Jun 2014, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I wouldn't hold my breath. They've deliberately removed names of the > control characters, as explained clearly in the Unicode Standard. > But you are welcome to ask a question on the Unicode mailing list > unicode@unicode.org. I've browsed around and found http://www.unicode.org/Public/6.3.0/ucd/NameAliases.txt which says: # Note that no formal name alias for the ISO 6429 "BELL" is # provided for U+0007, because of the existing name collision # with U+1F514 BELL. So it seems that they are aware of the problem already. >>>>> On Thu, 5 Jun 2014, Josh wrote: > Is there a reason you can't use `C-q C-g' to insert this character? Sure, it's not unusual that a task can be performed in Emacs in several different ways. Is this an excuse for one of them being imperfect?