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From: <emacs@kosowsky.org>
To: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Cc: emacs@kosowsky.org, 15648@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#15648: 24.2.50; gnutls SSL connection to IMAP server causes emacs to crash completely
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 15:00:39 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <21121.14183.459189.358588@consult.pretender> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877gceiv2h.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com>

Ted Zlatanov wrote at about 14:42:46 -0500 on Monday, November 11, 2013:
 > On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 14:12:34 -0500 <emacs@kosowsky.org> wrote: 
 > 
 > > The absence of cygwin-mount magic file handling when a file name is
 > > passed directly to the gnutls c-code without going through any of the
 > > standard magic-file-handling file access routines is the crux of the
 > > problem.
 > 
 > > So, again I see only 2 solutions:
 > > 1. Change (or omit) the "/usr" path and make it relative to cygwin
 > >    root (though this would not work generally since cygwin root is
 > >    changeable)
 > 
 > > 2. Implement magic handling so that paths are automagically translated
 > >    to be correct at the file system level. In this case, by inserting
 > >    the cygwin root.
 > 
 > Could we just call http://cygwin-lite.sourceforge.net/html/cygpath.html
 > on the path (or the equivalent C function)?  It seems to be guaranteed
 > to work but may be very slow with the execution overhead.
 > 
 > Ted

It would work for cygwin... but I see two limitations:

1. The same problem that affects cygwin-mount, would affect any other
   magic file handler that translates file names, since once again
   file-exists-p would return true, while the path passed to the
   c-code would in general not point to an OS-recognizable file.

   I could even right my own file handler called
   'my-2nd-home' whereby any path beginning with ~~ would be
   translated to /home/my-2nd-home. Then, if I put such a file name in
   gnutls-trustfiles, it would cause gnutls to throw an error when the
   path is passed to the c-code.

   Again, my patch would solve the problem

2. The suggestion seems to be far kluggier than my suggested patch
   since it relies on a user elisp routine passing executing a system
   call to return a path every time a gnutls connection is
   requested. At least cygwin-mount does this only once at startup and
   abstracts the translation away from higher level routines -- which
   is the entire purpose of a magic file handler.

   If cygpath belongs anywhere, it would be in the magic file handling
   code. Though cygwin-mount does this in a "smarter" way by calling
   'mount' once to determine the cygwin prefix once-and-for-all, and
   then whenever a path is passed, the magic handler automatically
   prefixes on the cygwin mount prefix.

Once again, the problem is not cygwin-mount, per-se. The problem is
the inconsistency between using the magic file enabled predicate
file-exists-p to test for a file and then passing that same file name
to c-code that knows nothing about magic file handlers.





  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-11 20:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-18 18:29 bug#15648: 24.2.50; gnutls SSL connection to IMAP server causes emacs to crash completely emacs
2013-10-18 19:38 ` Glenn Morris
2013-10-20 20:24   ` emacs
2013-10-21 14:22   ` bug#15648: 24.2.50; gnutls SSL connection to IMAP server causes emacs to crash completely, " Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-21 19:30     ` emacs
2013-10-22 13:27       ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-22 15:23         ` emacs
2013-10-22 15:41           ` emacs
2013-10-22 19:10             ` emacs
2013-10-22 20:06               ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-22 20:22                 ` emacs
2013-10-22 20:34                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-22 22:27               ` emacs
2013-10-23  2:51                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-23  4:17                 ` emacs
2013-10-23 14:52                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-23 17:25                     ` emacs
2013-10-23 18:07                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-23 18:58                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-23 23:45                           ` emacs
2013-10-24  0:13                             ` emacs
2013-10-24 10:59                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-24 14:10                               ` emacs
2013-10-24 15:48                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-24 17:02                                   ` emacs
2013-10-24 17:57                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-24 18:42                                   ` emacs
2013-10-25  0:59                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-25 13:59                                       ` emacs
2013-10-26  1:52                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-29  5:13                                           ` emacs
2013-11-03 11:42                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-11-03 15:12                                             ` emacs
2013-11-03 17:32                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-03 19:12                                                 ` emacs
2013-11-04 16:28                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-11-04 16:58                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-11 19:12                                                     ` emacs
2013-11-11 19:42                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-11-11 20:00                                                         ` emacs [this message]
2013-11-11 20:00                                                         ` Achim Gratz
2013-11-11 23:58                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-11-12  0:45                                                             ` emacs
2013-11-11 20:06                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-11 21:53                                                         ` emacs
2013-11-12  3:56                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-12 15:19                                                             ` emacs
2013-11-12 17:42                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                                               ` <<83ppq51pq8.fsf@gnu.org>
2013-11-12 18:08                                                                 ` Drew Adams
2013-11-03 21:37                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-23 15:16                   ` bug#15648: 24.2.50; gnutls SSL connection to IMAP server causes emacs to crash completely, " Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-23 17:12                     ` emacs
2013-10-23 18:00                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-23 19:49                         ` emacs
2013-10-24  2:46                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-25  3:17                         ` emacs
2013-10-25 14:09                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-25 15:38                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-25 18:37                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-03 17:30                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-04 16:44                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-11-04 17:06                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-04 18:05                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-11-04 22:14                                       ` emacs
2013-11-05  2:30                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-11-05 23:11                                           ` emacs
2013-11-05 23:16                                             ` Alp Aker
2013-11-05 23:54                                               ` emacs
2013-11-11 15:53                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-11-11 19:40                                                   ` emacs
2013-11-11 20:11                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-11 21:56                                                       ` emacs
2013-11-12  3:58                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-12 15:23                                                           ` emacs
2013-11-06  3:51                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-06  5:45                                               ` emacs
2013-10-22 15:43         ` bug#15648: 24.2.50; gnutls SSL connection to IMAP server causes emacs to crash completely, " Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-22 20:03           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-22 20:35           ` Andy Moreton
2013-10-22 20:45             ` Eli Zaretskii

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