From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs CVS & DJGPP CVS: "make bootstrap" fails Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:53:56 +0300 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <2110-Sat18Jan2003155356+0200-eliz@is.elta.co.il> References: <200301181320.h0IDKqDU011701@stubby.bodenonline.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1042898245 17711 80.91.224.249 (18 Jan 2003 13:57:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 13:57:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rich@phekda.freeserve.co.uk Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18ZtTP-0004bQ-00 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:57:23 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18ZtdL-0002aY-00 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:07:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18ZtU0-00052z-0B for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 08:58:00 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18ZtTE-0004Gt-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 08:57:12 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18ZtS1-00036Z-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 08:55:58 -0500 Original-Received: from thor.inter.net.il ([192.114.186.11]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18ZtRc-0002n1-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 08:55:32 -0500 Original-Received: from zaretsky ([80.230.194.32]) by thor.inter.net.il (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id ASL20868; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:55:23 +0200 (IST) Original-To: jan.h.d@swipnet.se X-Mailer: emacs 21.3.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 1.8.9 In-reply-to: <200301181320.h0IDKqDU011701@stubby.bodenonline.com> (jan.h.d@swipnet.se) Original-cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:10847 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:10847 > From: "Jan D." > Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 13:25:30 +0100 (MET) > > Yes, I did that. I checked when HAVE_MENUS gets defined, but it > did not occur to me that a file in s/ (s/msdos.h) might define it. Yes, the DJGPP port emulates X menus, see src/msdos.c. (This emulation could be the basis of similar support for text terminals on Unix and GNU systems.) > I'm guessing DJGPP does not use configure? Right. It instead uses config.bat batch file and a bunch of Sed scripts in the `msdos' subdirectory. When Emacs 19.2x was ported to DJGPP, there was no Bash port yet, so running a configure script was not an option. An additional disadvantage of using configure, even now, is that one needs lots of ported packages to be installed, in addition to Bash. By contrast, config.bat uses only a small number of widely available ported programs (Sed, mv, and rm, IIRC), and thus one can build Emacs with only a minimal set of non-standard tools, which is good for a fundamental tool such as Emacs, as it avoids a chicken-and-egg problem to some extent.