From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ulrich Mueller Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: BBDB v3 approaching release Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 11:37:13 +0200 Message-ID: <20903.7625.861080.943448@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> References: <20899.5836.285028.24953@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87obbvwgw6.fsf@sbs.ch> <20901.8264.9162.330645@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20902.12476.291747.710823@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1369906663 25734 80.91.229.3 (30 May 2013 09:37:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 09:37:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Christian Egli , Roland Winkler , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 30 11:37:42 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UhzIk-0005gb-3Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 May 2013 11:37:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47754 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UhzIj-0001xN-MA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:37:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51856) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UhzIa-0001x1-Nf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:37:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UhzIT-0007km-KO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:37:32 -0400 Original-Received: from a1www.kph.uni-mainz.de ([134.93.134.1]:51805) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UhzIM-0007jw-L7; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:37:18 -0400 Original-Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de [134.93.134.92]) by a1www.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id r4U9bG0O009190; Thu, 30 May 2013 11:37:17 +0200 Original-Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.6/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r4U9bEpB012047; Thu, 30 May 2013 11:37:14 +0200 Original-Received: (from ulm@localhost) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r4U9bEFP012042; Thu, 30 May 2013 11:37:14 +0200 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 134.93.134.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:159916 Archived-At: >>>>> On Wed, 29 May 2013, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> How do I configure install locations of a package if it's in ELPA >> format? > You don't. Why is this better than having them configurable? Especially, why are you asking that a package like BBDB that has a perfectly working autoconf build system should _remove_ it? >> Especially, if the package has non-lisp components? > You leave them alongside the Elisp files. Emacs itself uses a different layout and keeps non-lisp files in different directories like etc or info. (Hopefully there are no plans to change that?) For example, for Info files it's really a PITA if they're not collected in one (or at least, few) central locations. > And when you need them, your Elisp package will find them by looking > around itself (it can get access to its own location via > `load-file-name'). This means that anyone who wants to adhere to some standard like FHS must move files around manually. I had to do this way too often when packaging things for Gentoo. Most packages are at least friendly enough and spend a defvar or defcustom that allows to configure these directories (often with a fallback to the above-mentioned load-file-name location). Ulrich