From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: bug tracker woes/misunderstanding Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 11:02:27 -0700 Message-ID: <206D2AC044E640119F6AAED2EE618F09@us.oracle.com> References: <042C2BC3673A4EA187047FE106A0ED89@us.oracle.com> <87pqnmcyld.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83tycyfqo1.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1305309773 6750 80.91.229.12 (13 May 2011 18:02:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 18:02:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 13 20:02:47 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QKwhJ-00016W-9O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 20:02:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34012 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QKwhI-0006EH-QF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 14:02:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:48221) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QKwhG-0006E7-Bo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 14:02:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QKwhF-0005Wc-AU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 14:02:42 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]:31986) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QKwhD-0005WQ-Q6; Fri, 13 May 2011 14:02:40 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id p4DI2a6J028443 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 13 May 2011 18:02:38 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p4DI2ZSt010799 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 13 May 2011 18:02:36 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt021.oracle.com (abhmt021.oracle.com [141.146.116.30]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p4DI2TQs012428; Fri, 13 May 2011 13:02:29 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.43.79) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 13 May 2011 11:02:29 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcwRlKboZu/GpOz+R2OQScLSS7wlJAAAUu9w X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6090 In-Reply-To: <83tycyfqo1.fsf@gnu.org> X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090206.4DCD723E.0161:SCFMA922111,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 148.87.113.121 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:139375 Archived-At: > > Great. Please add your explanation as doc, wherever the > > bug tracker is documented (assuming this info is not already there). > > It is already there (admin/notes/bugtracker): > > ** How do I reply to an existing bug report? > Reply to 123@debbugs.gnu.org... Nope, but thanks for playing, Eli. That does not include the info from Stephen's explanation. 1. Users _will_ hit `Reply' and `Reply All'. And they will reply to direct replies to them from other users, i.e., mail that comes from other users and not from the bug tracker. Please add information about what to do when you reply to a message that has bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, and not @debbugs.gnu.org, as a recipient. It is not enough to tell users that they must always edit the recipient bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, replacing it with @debbugs.gnu.org. That is obviously not going to happen - including for users such as Eli Zaretskii. http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=8653#26 2. Please add information about what kinds of editing of the Subject line are no-no's (at least in the case where the recipient is bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org). E.g., do not remove "RE:", do not move "RE:" to the right (?),...