From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Samuel Wales Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: how to activate region Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:16:56 -0700 Message-ID: <20524da70905151316v45e2f576te95b74e32de1e900@mail.gmail.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1242418674 29061 80.91.229.12 (15 May 2009 20:17:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 20:17:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Barry Margolin Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 15 22:17:47 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1M53qi-000887-14 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 May 2009 22:17:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47958 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M53qh-0007GS-6w for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 May 2009 16:17:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M53qN-0007EK-1F for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 May 2009 16:17:23 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M53qI-000785-IP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 May 2009 16:17:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60195 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M53qI-00077l-93 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 May 2009 16:17:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-px0-f111.google.com ([209.85.216.111]:61419) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M53qH-0003oU-Ts for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 May 2009 16:17:18 -0400 Original-Received: by pxi9 with SMTP id 9so1404140pxi.14 for ; Fri, 15 May 2009 13:17:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=aku037fe31/AFd5XVaN4yBM3h8QqpYsIDeo00Z5l5aQ=; b=eZvzbWrsP1WmFRVDVnj8CG5f8YZEIP19VyUllBq5jQO2584MEJbG8ZFxIi9Qde1/35 sHVNIhOhWtY7MteUYWFU/4c7NLRS8/UWPBomjtT5dHcDSy9mNI0P+SZEElv8mBH7pOTw RMGd09WpqcIcZLVi8XxUzrdgBq5JNfPCW4TzY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lI5Ho1kcpoknlqocfksQ+PIKMBNwYHVOf2991rRNwCiYGf43Mf9EDsNC6Pd0MzTcyp d8U85862lRVLprQtI0tbSRHvmnDlbg5NaXCCUT+iY3ZvBiMnq1hOqmi02pIeRJ+trPqt ocnhpv3gSW7QqaVMbbgJvrsTsBbw8o1nNID7c= Original-Received: by 10.114.159.16 with SMTP id h16mr5608743wae.35.1242418636922; Fri, 15 May 2009 13:17:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:64476 Archived-At: I did try the above solutions before posting. They were the most obvious things to try. They do not work. When transient-mark-mode is off, you can temporarily activate it with c-spc c-spc /and then moving point/. That is not a solution because I want to convert the /existing/ non-active region into an active one. Remember that a region is just point and mark. An /active/ region is different. Some commands require the region to be active. As I mentioned, c-spc c-spc has the side effect of setting the mark. You will notice that when you set the mark, point equals mark. When point equals mark, there is no useful region. Therefore c-x c-x does nothing useful when you do that. Suppose I have a region already. Perhaps you are thinking that c-x c-x will activate it? No, remember that transient-mark-mode is off. That does not work. So you see, c-x c-x is useless for making the existing region active, and c-spc c-spc is useless for making the existing region active. My original question remains unanswered. --------------- When transient-mark-mode is off, there must be a way to activate the existing region for commands that require it to be active. Anybody know what it is? The manual and apropos have yielded nothing so far. Thanks. --------------- Am I mistaken? Was my question answered? It seems to me that there were a lot of answers to questions that I did not ask. Perhaps we get a lot of /those/ questions on the list and it seemed like mine was similar? Thanks.