From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Samuel Wales Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: a look at the browser scene & emacs Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 11:12:33 -0700 Message-ID: <20524da70902281012m7de8d593l6a17a181aba0236b@mail.gmail.com> References: <8358de80-5198-41e5-b4a2-04e681d359d1@p20g2000yqi.googlegroups.com> <86wsbeajz6.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <002094c7-f9fd-422e-a68f-67051e0c7483@w9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com> <49a95cb8$0$90264$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1235844802 28709 80.91.229.12 (28 Feb 2009 18:13:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:13:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: "Colin S. Miller" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 28 19:14:38 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LdThf-0003Hy-S5 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:14:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43408 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LdTgK-0001xW-PH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:13:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LdTfy-0001xH-Ib for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:12:38 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LdTfw-0001x5-6P for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:12:37 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55869 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LdTfw-0001x2-0y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:12:36 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ew0-f179.google.com ([209.85.219.179]:40633) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LdTfv-00034W-HM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:12:35 -0500 Original-Received: by ewy27 with SMTP id 27so1750387ewy.42 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 10:12:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=q4Eo5qx75lQkj8yrHsVY7V7DTHf9YnAmf0T29wXFxkY=; b=mXHE/iFc5086RoFRzGEnwH7GLCUOlA1Fo6eKqQMGqT30/APBzGkNjRo6mwN6nREAmp x3/fKQVF9AxzmadsnebXFR9lMKWP9FvrS0Gq9Ahce/Eirgdq2WpIXpDTGKV+7cdzEJs9 6KsRoCcTLckOYKk3tTsmw/ue3bXW0RQOnjk9I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=k02NlAULVKVnmThjnkQva55hwJkW9NX/ZHBHkOmhCgE748sDsbCeHk+lB0bMSZcHd9 jfWARzhqyLU1fJpKbyk75YGt5LMsdQa74mIj1irgPRMiYpBWndXxblpVgo3ffd3jsiFi q7vUFEZOMLHD9CBaxANS8dLOArsmaZTLsymd8= Original-Received: by 10.210.92.8 with SMTP id p8mr3092224ebb.55.1235844753412; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 10:12:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <49a95cb8$0$90264$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:62482 Archived-At: On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 08:48, Colin S. Miller wrote: > (require 'redo) > (global-set-key '(control meta -) 'redo) > > will make Emacs's redo behave like most other editors. The behavior of redo is indeed an improvement -- it provides the needed functionality -- but that package corrupts the buffer. If that bug were fixed in both emacs and xemacs, I think that there would be no complaints about undo at all. (Oh, some people might suggest branching or viewing the history or a different type of bunching or something, but the lack of a true redo (as opposed to undoing the undo) is IMO among the biggest usability issues in all of emacs-dom.) -- Myalgic encephalomyelitis denialism is causing death (decades early; Jason et al. 2006) and severe suffering, pain, and disability (worse than nearly all other serious diseases studied; Schweitzer et al. 1995) and grossly corrupting science. The denialism is worse than it ever was with even AIDS or MS. http://www.meactionuk.org.uk/What_Is_ME_What_Is_CFS.htm