From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Roland Winkler" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10554: 24.0.92; No units specified (dimensionless quantities in Emacs Calc) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:12:00 -0600 Message-ID: <20250.54720.342718.59012@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <8762g8i7s6.fsf@niu.edu> <87bopz5pt8.fsf@gmail.com> <20248.39483.716850.185512@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87d3afdlfz.fsf@gmail.com> <20249.10002.733142.491623@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <8739bajp5k.fsf@gmail.com> <20249.43656.150957.30947@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <8739bab36p.fsf@gmail.com> <20249.52946.931367.162775@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87lip29jsn.fsf@gmail.com> <20249.58980.778477.37221@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87r4yt9b6g.fsf@gmail.com> <20250.33882.89017.12372@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <8739b9w1vi.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1327158788 13699 80.91.229.12 (21 Jan 2012 15:13:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 10554@debbugs.gnu.org To: jay.p.belanger@gmail.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 21 16:13:04 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Roccq-0005E3-1o for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:13:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48432 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rocco-00068X-Oc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:13:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42415) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Roccl-000686-PT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:13:00 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rocck-0006hA-V4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:12:59 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:33851) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rocck-0006h3-Ta for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:12:58 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rocco-0004ym-4q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:13:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Roland Winkler" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:13:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10554 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 10554-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10554.132715874619100 (code B ref 10554); Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:13:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 10554) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jan 2012 15:12:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39238 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RoccD-0004y1-N6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:12:26 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:43363 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RoccB-0004xq-2a for 10554@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:12:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [83.175.202.27] (port=53640 helo=regnitz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rocc5-0003UY-EP; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:12:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: <8739b9w1vi.fsf@gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 8.2 trial under 24.0.92.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:55890 Archived-At: On Sat Jan 21 2012 Jay Belanger wrote: > > So every plain, dimensionless number in Calc can be converted to > > ones. "7" becomes "7 one", > > There is no need for that. "7" is fine. But this implies that internally Calc must interpret "7" as if it was "7 one". Only then can one convert "7" to other dimensionless units such as the "e T nm^2 / hbar" that appeared in my original bug report. Currently the latter unit conversion does require the superfluous step that one tells Calc in one or the other way that "7" means "7 one". I suggest that this superfluous step should not be required. Roland