From: "Roland Winkler" <winkler@gnu.org>
To: jay.p.belanger@gmail.com
Cc: 10554@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#10554: 24.0.92; No units specified (dimensionless quantities in Emacs Calc)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 16:10:44 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20249.58980.778477.37221@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lip29jsn.fsf@gmail.com>
On Fri Jan 20 2012 Jay Belanger wrote:
> > I would, indeed, consider it quite OK if an error was signaled. Say,
> > if there was an option calc-throw-error-if-units-mismatch, I'd bind
> > it to t.
>
> Having such an option shouldn't be too hard to take care of, after 24.1
> comes out. By default, though, the current behavior shouldn't change,
> and so the option should have default value nil.
Great, thanks! Do you also see a possiblity to implement the other
scheme I suggested (attached below once more)? That would be
wonderful!
Roland
I guess we can have the following scenarios that can be handled as
follows:
(1) If the old expression and the new unit have the same dimension,
"1" should be treated like any other unit.
So this means:
- if the old expression has units that cancel completely (e.g.,
as in my orginal bug report) or it has a unit like "alpha",
one can specify "1" as the new unit and the unit conversion
returns a plain number.
- similarly: if the old expression is just a number (i.e., unit
"1"), this can be converted to other dimensionless units such
as "alpha" without being asked for the old unit.
(Yes, I am irritated if calc-convert-units asks me about the
old unit if there is just a plain number on the stack. So
backward compatibility would probably require a variable such
as calc-treat-numbers-as-dimensional, bound to nil by
default.)
(2) The old expression is not dimensionless such as "7 m", the new
unit is "1". Here I suggest that partial conversion means to
return the old expression without any unit conversion.
(this would be quite consistent with how Calc already treats the
case that the old expression is something like "7 m", and the
new unit is "alpha".)
(3) The old expression is a dimensionless number, the requested new
unit is something like "m":
Here I suggest to just return the old expression unmodified
(again, this would be quite consistent with how Calc already
treats the case that the old expression is something like
"7 alpha", where conversion to any other unit gives a
dimensionless number.
Did I miss another possibility? If yes, I am sure that it has a
reasonable solution, too.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-01-20 22:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-01-19 5:24 bug#10554: 24.0.92; No units specified (dimensionless quantities in Emacs Calc) Roland Winkler
2012-01-19 21:45 ` Jay Belanger
2012-01-19 22:33 ` Roland Winkler
2012-01-20 4:53 ` Jay Belanger
2012-01-20 8:34 ` Roland Winkler
2012-01-20 16:48 ` Jay Belanger
2012-01-20 17:55 ` Roland Winkler
2012-01-20 19:10 ` Jay Belanger
2012-01-20 20:30 ` Roland Winkler
2012-01-20 20:54 ` Jay Belanger
2012-01-20 22:10 ` Roland Winkler [this message]
2012-01-21 0:00 ` Jay Belanger
2012-01-21 9:24 ` Roland Winkler
2012-01-21 14:45 ` Jay Belanger
2012-01-21 15:12 ` Roland Winkler
2012-01-21 15:28 ` Jay Belanger
2012-01-21 15:42 ` Jay Belanger
2012-01-21 16:03 ` Roland Winkler
2012-01-20 20:36 ` Roland Winkler
2012-01-21 4:21 ` Jay Belanger
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