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Thu, 17 Aug 2023 20:15:02 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <835y5d5z6f.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:267686 Archived-At: On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 20:58:00 +0300 Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Running under GDB is significantly more complex (esp. for a casual user) >> than adding a CLI option > > No, it doesn't. Starting a program from GDB is very similar to > starting a program from the shell prompt. GDB was intentionally > written to work like a shell in this regard, complete with searching > PATH, supporting redirection, etc. Yes, after one has installed GDB, learnt how to use it and set it up to be useful with Emacs, the mere act of *starting* it is relatively easy, indeed... > I'm still not sure I understand: do you want us to document that if > debug-ignored-errors are modified in the init files, they sometimes > might end up with an unexpected value? Yes. (I think you mentioned something about saying that it's only safe to do so from after-init-hook or some such in a previous message.) > If so, I don't think this kind of documentation will be useful. Certainly more useful than silently breaking user's setup? (Which I still don't think should be done at all, silent or not, but doing so tacitly seems more on the user-hostile side.) > In the (IMO improbable) case that someone will want to remove errors > from the default value, as opposed to simply set it to the value they > want, I prefer to receive a bug report and explain that removing is > not supported with --debug-init, rather than have something like that > in the documentation, where it will almost certainly be very hard to > discover. IMHO it should be (at least) in the doc string of debug-ignored-errors. --=20 =C5=A0t=C4=9Bp=C3=A1n