bug#54472: 29.0.50; mouse-wheel-scroll-amount inconsistency

bug#54472: 29.0.50; mouse-wheel-scroll-amount inconsistency

[Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors]

Hi:

I have this config:

(setq-default mouse-wheel-scroll-amount '(3             ;; No modifier
					((control) . 6)
					((meta) . hscroll)
                                        ;; Either Shift+mouse not text-scale work in terminal,
                                        ;; so put them together
					((shift) . text-scale))
	    mouse-wheel-progressive-speed nil
	    mouse-scroll-delay 0)

And I have noticed that the scroll speed on xterm doubles the one in
gui: with 1 mouse wheel tick 

on gui: the buffer scrolls 3 lines (seems correct with the config).
in xterm: (emacs -nw) it scrolls 6 lines.

Is this a known issue? I have a workaround for it, but maybe there is a
real issue to solve?



In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 133, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.33, cairo version 1.17.4)
 of 2022-03-18 built on Ergus
Repository revision: 9bcf58d27c7c9ebe3bdd4d0564808767420bd44c
Repository branch: feature/completions-customs
System Description: Arch Linux

Configured using:
 'configure --prefix=/home/ergo/.local/ --with-mailutils --with-json
 --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-xft --with-wide-int --with-modules
 --with-cairo --with-harfbuzz --with-native-compilation --with-pgtk'

Configured features:
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WEBP XIM GTK3 ZLIB

Important settings:
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Fundamental

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  diff-hl-margin-mode: t
  vertico-mouse-mode: t
  vertico-mode: t
  composable-mark-mode: t
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  display-line-numbers-mode: t
  which-key-mode: t
  override-global-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  context-menu-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  size-indication-mode: t
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Load-path shadows:
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bug#54472: 29.0.50; mouse-wheel-scroll-amount inconsistency

[Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors]

Ergus <spacibba@aol.com> writes:

> (setq-default mouse-wheel-scroll-amount '(3             ;; No modifier
> 					((control) . 6)
> 					((meta) . hscroll)
>                                         ;; Either Shift+mouse not text-scale work in terminal,
>                                         ;; so put them together
> 					((shift) . text-scale))
> 	    mouse-wheel-progressive-speed nil
> 	    mouse-scroll-delay 0)
>
> And I have noticed that the scroll speed on xterm doubles the one in
> gui: with 1 mouse wheel tick 
>
> on gui: the buffer scrolls 3 lines (seems correct with the config).
> in xterm: (emacs -nw) it scrolls 6 lines.
>
> Is this a known issue? I have a workaround for it, but maybe there is a
> real issue to solve?

> Configured using:
>  'configure --prefix=/home/ergo/.local/ --with-mailutils --with-json
>  --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-xft --with-wide-int --with-modules
>  --with-cairo --with-harfbuzz --with-native-compilation --with-pgtk'
>
> Configured features:
> ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG
> JSON LCMS2 LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER
> PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS
> WEBP XIM GTK3 ZLIB

You seem to be using a PGTK build.  Please see if you get different
behavior differently on a build with the regular X Windows support.

Thanks.

If you're using X, don't use PGTK.  It lacks certain features, such as
drag and drop support, which will require a rewrite of the selection
handling code to use GDK selections instead of the GTK clipboard,
working `yank-media', and is known to cause many problems related to
input.

BTW, some of your configuration options are redundant or make no sense:
--with-wide-int does nothing on a 64-bit system, and --with-xft,
--with-cairo and --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 are ignored when PGTK is enabled.

You might want to correct them.

bug#54472: 29.0.50; mouse-wheel-scroll-amount inconsistency

[Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors]

On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 09:06:20PM +0800, Po Lu wrote:
>Ergus <spacibba@aol.com> writes:
>
>
>You seem to be using a PGTK build.  Please see if you get different
>behavior differently on a build with the regular X Windows support.
>
I get the same behaviors with this options:

Configured using:
  'configure --prefix=/home/ergo/.local/ --with-mailutils --with-json
  --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-xft --with-modules --with-cairo
  --with-harfbuzz --with-native-compilation'

Actually the behavior seems to be fine in gui (scroll by 3), what
actually seems a bit inexact is the terminal behavior (scroll by 6).

>Thanks.
>
Thanks to you.

bug#54472: 29.0.50; mouse-wheel-scroll-amount inconsistency

[Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors]

Ergus <spacibba@aol.com> writes:

> Configured using:
>  'configure --prefix=/home/ergo/.local/ --with-mailutils --with-json
>  --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-xft --with-modules --with-cairo
>  --with-harfbuzz --with-native-compilation'

(--with-xft does nothing when Cairo is enabled, I think)

> Actually the behavior seems to be fine in gui (scroll by 3), what
> actually seems a bit inexact is the terminal behavior (scroll by 6).

Did you try turning on xterm-mouse-mode?

bug#54472: 29.0.50; mouse-wheel-scroll-amount inconsistency

[Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors]

On March 21, 2022 2:11:18 AM GMT+01:00, Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Ergus <spacibba@aol.com> writes:
>
>> Configured using:
>>  'configure --prefix=/home/ergo/.local/ --with-mailutils --with-json
>>  --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-xft --with-modules --with-cairo
>>  --with-harfbuzz --with-native-compilation'
>
>(--with-xft does nothing when Cairo is enabled, I think)
>
>> Actually the behavior seems to be fine in gui (scroll by 3), what
>> actually seems a bit inexact is the terminal behavior (scroll by 6).
>
>Did you try turning on xterm-mouse-mode?

What do you mean? This is with xterm mouse mode on...


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bug#54472: 29.0.50; mouse-wheel-scroll-amount inconsistency

[Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors]

Ergus <spacibba@aol.com> writes:

> What do you mean? This is with xterm mouse mode on...

I didn't notice that, sorry.

Unfortunately, that means that I don't really know what might be going
on.

bug#54472: 29.0.50; mouse-wheel-scroll-amount inconsistency

[Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors]

On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 02:33:54PM +0800, Po Lu wrote:
>Ergus <spacibba@aol.com> writes:
>
>> What do you mean? This is with xterm mouse mode on...
>
>I didn't notice that, sorry.
>
>Unfortunately, that means that I don't really know what might be going
>on.

I'm pretty sure now that this is related with the events...

With `emacs -nw` when I scroll 1 tick and `C-h l` I see:

```
  ESC [ < 6 5		; 8 0 ; 1 9 M <mouse-5> ;; mwheel-scroll
  ESC [ < 6 5		; 8 0 ; 1 9 M <mouse-5> ;; mwheel-scroll
  C-h l			;; view-lossage
```

While for the same scroll on `emacs`

```
  <down-mouse-5> <mouse-5> ;; mwheel-scroll
  C-h l			  ;; view-lossage
```

This is not really a very accurate measurement... but maybe could help
someone with more knowledge to clarify?

After a while checking I found that the issue only happens for `emacs
-nw` on xterm. On alacrity, rxvt and gnome-terminal it seems to scroll
the correct amount (3).

So I can report the issue to xterm developer?

bug#54472: 29.0.50; mouse-wheel-scroll-amount inconsistency

[Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors]

Ergus <spacibba@aol.com> writes:

> I'm pretty sure now that this is related with the events...
>
> With `emacs -nw` when I scroll 1 tick and `C-h l` I see:
>
> ```
>  ESC [ < 6 5		; 8 0 ; 1 9 M <mouse-5> ;; mwheel-scroll
>  ESC [ < 6 5		; 8 0 ; 1 9 M <mouse-5> ;; mwheel-scroll
>  C-h l			;; view-lossage
> ```

I think this is a bug in xterm-mouse-mode: IIRC (though this may be very
inaccurate) xterm sends an escape sequence both for a mouse button being
pressed and for one being released.

On X Windows, moving the scroll wheel will result in both a ButtonPress
and a ButtonRelease event for the appropriate scroll wheel button.

But I'm by no means an xterm expert, so this may very well be wrong.

bug#54472: 29.0.50; mouse-wheel-scroll-amount inconsistency

[Andreas Schwab]

On Mär 21 2022, Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" wrote:

> I think this is a bug in xterm-mouse-mode: IIRC (though this may be very
> inaccurate) xterm sends an escape sequence both for a mouse button being
> pressed and for one being released.

I don't see that here, xterm always reports only one <mouse-4>/<mouse-5>
event per wheel step.

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bug#54472: 29.0.50; mouse-wheel-scroll-amount inconsistency

[Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors]

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Hi:

I just confirmed with the developer that this is an issue/feature/limitation with xterm omit translation mouse wheel... So in spite of the problem is there, it is not in emacs side, so you may want to close this issue.

Best,
Ergus



On March 21, 2022 9:50:20 AM GMT+01:00, Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Ergus <spacibba@aol.com> writes:
>
>> I'm pretty sure now that this is related with the events...
>>
>> With `emacs -nw` when I scroll 1 tick and `C-h l` I see:
>>
>> ```
>>  ESC [ < 6 5		; 8 0 ; 1 9 M <mouse-5> ;; mwheel-scroll
>>  ESC [ < 6 5		; 8 0 ; 1 9 M <mouse-5> ;; mwheel-scroll
>>  C-h l			;; view-lossage
>> ```
>
>I think this is a bug in xterm-mouse-mode: IIRC (though this may be very
>inaccurate) xterm sends an escape sequence both for a mouse button being
>pressed and for one being released.
>
>On X Windows, moving the scroll wheel will result in both a ButtonPress
>and a ButtonRelease event for the appropriate scroll wheel button.
>
>But I'm by no means an xterm expert, so this may very well be wrong.

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