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From: tomas@tuxteam.de
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Add a configure option for NATIVE_FULL_AOT?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 12:05:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210819100500.GI13517@tuxteam.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83y28x26vg.fsf@gnu.org>

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On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 11:09:23AM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 09:27:06 +0200
> > From: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
> > 
> > I agree that this problem hasn't a trivial (or unique) solution.
> > But this is something for distros to solve. Emacs has just to
> > provide the mechanisms to make that possible (and, as far as I
> > can see, it does).
> 
> This discussion started when a distro came here asking for a change
> where Emacs already provides the mechanism to make that possible.

But perhaps, it's possible as it is. What distors want, one way or
another is to provide pre-compiled .eln files for the .el libraries
they provide. At the same time giving users a way to override some
of them locally.

If Emacs is capable to locate the correct .eln (as far as I have
understood now, it searches for the .el to resolve that), the
above should be possible, no?

For example, if the distro provides the .el (most probably those
will be compressed, as .el.gz, but I think that's a transparent
detail), the corresponding .elc and .eln) all would be well.

If a user wants to hack on a single .el, she would typically
copy that to a user controlled place [1] and the corresponding
.elc and .eln would also go to corresponding user-controlled
spaces and would, hopefully, override the system-provided ones,
if all `path' variables are set up correctly.

It could well be that I'm missing something important, though.

[1] She could (most of the time) also hack the files in-place,
   but updates would obliterate those changes.

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-19 10:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-17  8:53 Add a configure option for NATIVE_FULL_AOT? Ulrich Mueller
2021-08-17 11:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-17 11:56   ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-08-17 12:09     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-17 13:03       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18 14:44         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-17 12:53     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-17 13:07       ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-17 15:32       ` Yuri D'Elia
2021-08-17 17:01         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-17 17:12           ` Yuri D'Elia
2021-08-17 18:19             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-17 18:33           ` Andreas Schwab
2021-08-17 18:42             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-17 18:46               ` Andreas Schwab
2021-08-17 19:01                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-17 19:05                   ` Andreas Schwab
2021-08-17 19:09                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-17 19:36               ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-08-18  0:48                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-18  7:29                   ` Andreas Schwab
2021-08-18 15:43                     ` Yuri D'Elia
2021-08-19  0:57                       ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-19  7:04                         ` tomas
2021-08-19 21:17                           ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-20  7:20                             ` tomas
2021-08-20 12:06                               ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-20 13:13                                 ` tomas
2021-08-20 19:51                                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-20 20:06                                     ` tomas
2021-08-20 21:25                                       ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-21  6:44                                         ` tomas
2021-08-21 18:20                                           ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-19  7:13                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-19 21:01                           ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-18  2:23                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18  4:53                   ` Tassilo Horn
2021-08-18 12:07                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-19  2:34                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-19  6:30                         ` tomas
2021-08-19  7:07                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-19  7:17                           ` Andreas Schwab
2021-08-19  7:46                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-19  7:27                           ` tomas
2021-08-19  8:09                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-19 10:05                               ` tomas [this message]
2021-08-19 10:51                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-19 12:49                                   ` tomas
2021-08-19 12:52                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-19 13:09                                       ` tomas
2021-08-18  7:04                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-08-18 12:12                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18  7:33                   ` tomas
2021-08-18 12:14                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18 13:32                       ` tomas
2021-08-18 13:45                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18 16:22                           ` tomas
2021-08-18 16:26                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18 16:34                               ` tomas
2021-08-18 16:43                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18 16:56                                   ` tomas
2021-08-18 17:12                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18 16:48                             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-18 17:00                               ` tomas
2021-08-18 17:17                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18 17:34                                   ` tomas
2021-08-18 19:43                                   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-08-19  1:19                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-19  7:11                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-19  8:01                                         ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-08-18 17:04                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18 19:44                                 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-08-19  7:17                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-19  7:52                                     ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-08-18 14:11           ` Stefan Kangas
2021-08-18 15:54             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18 19:13           ` Gunnar Horrigmo
2021-08-18 19:24             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-20  8:22               ` Gunnar Horrigmo
2021-08-20 10:47                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-20 13:06                   ` Gunnar Horrigmo
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-08-17 16:03 Tom Gillespie
2021-08-17 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-17 21:52   ` Tom Gillespie
2021-08-18 12:04     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18  0:33 ` Arthur Miller

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