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From: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Appending lists
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2021 09:48:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210617074843.GD16310@tuxteam.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SA2PR10MB447487394836D469FF944939F30E9@SA2PR10MB4474.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>

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On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 03:18:48AM +0000, Drew Adams wrote:
> > >> What's a "deep copy"?

[...]

> > deep copy = actual copy
> > shallow copy = copy of references?
> 
> Did you read `C-h f copy-tree'?
> 
> No.  Everything involving list structure (conses)
> uses references.
> 
> `copy-sequence' is a shallow copy [...]

All this shows that "shallow" and "deep" are relative.
Copy-tree is "as deep as it gets", with some consequences.

Let's do an experiment, shall we?

But before: save all your texts. And, if Emacs behaves
strangely, C-g usually gets you out of the thickets.

So put on your lab coat and your security goggles. For an
awesome experience, best do your session interactive, step
by step:

  (setq lst '(a b c d dacapo))
  => (a b c d dacapo)
  
  (cddddr lst)
  => (dacapo) ;;; OK, it's the last one.
  
  (setcdr (cddddr lst) lst)) ;;; make circular list [1]
  => (a b c d dacapo a b c d dacapo a . #5) ;;; uh, whatever (see below [2])
  
  lst
  => (a b c d dacapo a b c d dacapo a . #5) ;;; (see below [2])
  
  (setq otherlst (copy-tree lst)) ;;; TIGHTEN YOUR GOGGLES!
  => ... ;;; [3]

As I said above: you (most probably) can get your Emacs back with C-g.

Cheers

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros
[2] We have a circular list. This funny #5 you see there is print's
   way to tell you "hey, I've been here already. Are you trying to
   pull my leg?". Its behaviour depends on the variable `print-circle',
   which, when true, makes print even smarter -- in our case it's
   nil, but it seems that for simple cases like this one, print
   sometimes doesn't explode. Hold on to your goggles at step 3,
   just in case...
[3] Copy-tree, alas, isn't as smart. It will happily fill your memory
   if you don't hurry up with your C-g.

 - tomás

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-17  7:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-17  3:18 Appending lists Drew Adams
2021-06-17  7:48 ` tomas [this message]
2021-06-18 23:38   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-18 23:50   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-19  6:57     ` tomas
2021-06-19 21:31       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-19 22:07         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-06-20 19:50           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-20 19:58             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-20 20:10               ` Jean Louis
2021-06-20 20:27                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-20 19:59             ` Jean Louis
2021-06-20 20:22               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-20 20:42               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-20 20:49                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-20 21:49                   ` Jean Louis
2021-06-20 22:54                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-20 23:30                       ` Jean Louis
2021-06-21  0:29                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-20 21:46                 ` Jean Louis
2021-06-20 22:09             ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-20 23:04               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-20 23:10                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
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2021-06-14 16:44 Pierpaolo Bernardi
2021-06-15  0:56 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-15  1:47   ` henri-biard
2021-06-15  7:09     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-14 16:36 Pierpaolo Bernardi
2021-06-14 16:40 ` henri-biard
2021-06-14 18:21   ` Alexandr Vityazev
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2021-06-16  9:13               ` Jean Louis
2021-06-16  9:32                 ` tomas
2021-06-16 10:55                   ` Jean Louis
2021-06-16 16:44                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16  9:19               ` Jean Louis
2021-06-16  9:35                 ` tomas
2021-06-16 10:57                   ` Jean Louis
2021-06-16 16:55                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 11:16                 ` Yuri Khan
2021-06-16 11:30                   ` Jean Louis
2021-06-16 11:54                     ` tomas
2021-06-16 17:31                       ` Jean Louis
2021-06-16 23:13                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 23:41                           ` Jean Louis
2021-06-16 13:01                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-06-16 16:59                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 17:36                       ` Jean Louis
2021-06-16 18:54                         ` tomas
2021-06-16 21:24                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-06-16 23:25                             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-17  7:16                               ` tomas
2021-06-17  7:14                             ` tomas
2021-06-16 23:24                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 23:19                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 16:54                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 18:49                   ` tomas
2021-06-16 21:40                     ` Jean Louis
2021-06-16 22:35                       ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 23:02                         ` Jean Louis
2021-06-17  0:00                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 23:44                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-17  7:20                           ` tomas
2021-06-16 23:39                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 23:31                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 14:22               ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 15:11                 ` tomas
2021-06-16 15:31                   ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 15:48                     ` tomas
2021-06-16 23:04                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-17  7:50                       ` tomas
2021-06-18 23:47                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-19  2:35                           ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-19  6:52                             ` tomas
2021-06-16 23:03                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 16:42               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-14 16:24 Pierpaolo Bernardi
2021-06-14 16:32 ` henri-biard
2021-06-14 16:08 henri-biard

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