From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: declare function/macro private Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2021 07:49:20 +0200 Message-ID: <20210608054920.GA17143@tuxteam.de> References: <20210607033526.4c5nntohhprdkzzd@E15-2016.optimum.net> <835yyphmqx.fsf@gnu.org> <20210608011456.zc56i2i22tboxcgf@E15-2016.optimum.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38325"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: 0278C47F-42CE-45C4-B789-83C57DF1A191@bydasein.com, Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Boruch Baum , monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 08 07:50:19 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lqUd0-0009jm-RW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2021 07:50:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55354 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lqUcz-0007DR-BH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2021 01:50:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33782) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lqUcI-0006Wp-0e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2021 01:49:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:36753) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lqUcF-0006ds-Sx; Tue, 08 Jun 2021 01:49:33 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:Date; bh=dTeibBXOsHRBlImx68TOPFdiJEfonAx1NP6J0HHn4Dw=; b=kZvFk0rNeZleGrql/pyW9P+kdC7751YPnBl/+foeDOPkGm2RT83CRUP8ZIU49iJLUYgy07EqzXSuqUTOsbISdcbdDwvT/6akvIN9bvPgbc3/vwk5bdgOIf8aeRiwKLuMN5tmigk2qYCWcFmIBH4ZeAYdukM0Crh/2Y7ZX3mutFlg+GNZZQNcyE3G5ccOwh5OcgnLcWRmzyc11JTl7OS+WqxMLEC5b2huBMjsBWSz519K+rYLeW2AYFoFIr/BsmYiTe1TQ2IdIfAFwCw6CplcWhpXXf6YxeE82tViPgPVjm+WwLgJdl8PxXGAXP9p2zQtIJGv9QdraK1C43U/AvNqyw==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1lqUc4-0004XU-9q; Tue, 08 Jun 2021 07:49:20 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:270556 Archived-At: --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 06:20:46AM +0200, Arthur Miller wrote: > Boruch Baum writes: [...] > > My concern isn't the declaration, but the scope of its consequences. For > > example, an emacs user who does no elisp programming would be happy to > > have no private variable/function results appear among completion > > candidates [...] > How would Emacs now if it was a programmer asking or not programmer > asking? :-) That's exactly my take. Enforcing things because "I think they should be this way" is not the kind of software I like to interact with. Cheers - t --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAmC/BOAACgkQBcgs9XrR2kZSGwCffKe9Act8ulMx1CsrB4to9JVl NQQAn2gRg/sCNY6l9blaJ+7CtQv2K9Uo =G+SA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5--