From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "tomas@tuxteam.de" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : What is the difference between (deactivate-mark) and (setq deactivate-mark t)? Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2021 17:30:35 +0200 Message-ID: <20210407153035.GB512@tuxteam.de> References: <87pmzc825q.fsf@mbork.pl> <87v98ybrrn.fsf@mbork.pl> <20210407072538.GB13640@tuxteam.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gj572EiMnwbLXET9" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15990"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 07 17:31:47 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lUA9j-000438-Ev for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 17:31:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40960 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUA9i-0007qh-GL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 11:31:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34650) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUA8f-0007pG-W7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 11:30:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:52434) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUA8d-0004Mg-06 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 11:30:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=6eqV6ejH8BrPH7+pnnrf2M8OrXJHOqqco0uGJWZVWSE=; b=E3jkshVPCnWUxJxO2+UDwWLjRPjeQZh2CYtaNLCDzifFc3V78X+m1jZI8h+l0AGbxaHQRYhRtPKH2KsU77W0lwgGv5jznScGmnhOR9a77XYromVkft4fwYQFlWo+ZASfd1GQyZpD7plYnqO4K4Dke3YqZwHh16M8qUZj1S8rK/JL/7w0bq1sQf9yYrwWkVJucpU+hWfwrQkfCQvEFAccC/1MLr+x1OXbV4zvjwkEHzMdVzYAquoQlSdWI8LiHXiRWt5vDak/Q0jnVBqPFG9qWHs/HJ0P2HkfYgsWj+YU175zH1+jRVgKJses9cX5IApzihkouHMchtnjTr/rb8GI0g==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1lUA8Z-0001BL-Kd; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 17:30:35 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:128887 Archived-At: --gj572EiMnwbLXET9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 07, 2021 at 02:58:11PM +0000, Drew Adams wrote: > > In a nutshell: deactivating (i.e. setting to nil) `deactivate-mark' > > deactivates the mark-deactivating code. Phew ;-) >=20 > Yes. An alternative name for the variable > could have been `don't-deactivate-mark', > with the nil/non-nil values swapped. I think the variable name and semantics are fine. Turning it around wouldn't make it less confusing, IMHO. I don't have any constructive idea on how to make that more understandable myself. So don't take my remark as a rant. Just trying to walk that triple loop to get my brain clear :) Cheers - t --gj572EiMnwbLXET9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAmBt0BsACgkQBcgs9XrR2kYoUQCbBFab69DLUxO7E3R+jHDOPy4d VbQAniwn6Ovm7wbQwJ0R0w9hIOZSwOQL =v1qX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gj572EiMnwbLXET9--