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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264146 Archived-At: On Sun, Feb 07, 2021 at 06:43:31PM +0000, Drew Adams wrote: >> And I've now moved the binding to `C-x x g', which should un-annoy >> Magit users. >> >> There's been suggestions for other buffer-related commands to put on >> the `C-x x' keymap, and I'm adding a few of those, too. Feel free to make >> further suggestions. > >Please don't bind `C-x x' by default. That's >my suggestion. > >Bookmark+ uses `C-x x' (having been forced off >of `C-x p'). > What if (just getting crazy) you consider adding some/most of the bookmark+ functionalities to vanilla and they will go in the `C-x r` map with the other bookmark commands (C-x r b, C-x r m and so on)??? Like diredx for dired or and many other examples... Even extending the current `C-x r` is a better choice than taking a binding only for this... It will help to discover the commands when using which-key for example and avoid the user learn and sacrifice another prefix combination. I don't want to argue about this, it is just a suggestion because I wanted to use bookmark+ long time ago, but I finally never tried it because 1) it is not in elpa or melpa or vanilla (so I will need to manually maintain it updates) and 2) because I will have to sacrifice a binding just for it... It is just my opinion...