From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ergus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Concern about new binding. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:263764 Archived-At: >> I would suggest something like: >> >> C-x g c = clone-buffer >> C-x g d = diff-buffers >> C-x g f = fit-frame-to-buffer >> C-x g h = hexl-mode >> C-x g i = insert-buffer >> C-x g l = font-lock-mode >> C-x g n = rename-buffer >> C-x g r = revert-buffer >> C-x g R = revert-buffer-with-fine-grain >> C-x g t = toggle-truncate-lines >> >> and so forth. > >Please, no, absolutely not. > >You can do that for your own use. > >If zillions of users end up using exactly that >for a considerable time, then emacs-devel can >think about giving prefix key `C-x g' to Emacs >that way. Till then, no, please. wAGNI. > > Drew: The binding is already taken (that's why I started the thread), so the discussion will be to take it for something "better" than a single (maybe superfluous) command. If we start arguing as usual then the binding will stay and no change will be done (again as usual). Best, Ergus