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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:260411 Archived-At: On 2020-12-06 03:52, Stefan Kangas wrote: > (Cc to Bastien.) > > Although the org-mode maintainers do read emacs-devel and bug-gnu-emacs > with some frequency, most subscribers are not org-mode experts. > > I would therefore recommend sending org-mode patches directly to the > org-mode mailing list: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org. This makes sure it is > seen by the competent and helpful org-mode hackers. In most cases, I > don't think there is any need to also open a bug against Emacs. Your comments were points of discussion in the org-mode thread that I referenced. See there, but in part, that list requires one to first subscribe and become a member in order to post to the list, which is a barrier to entry for bug reporters not committed to be developers or insiders, and the method is inconsistent with other parts of emacs-core and thus unexpected for users. The thread also addressed issues of maintainabilty, bug-tracking, and other useful and constructive comments. Do see there. =2D- hkp://keys.gnupg.net CA45 09B5 5351 7C11 A9D1 7286 0036 9E45 1595 8BC0