From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: RE: Auto Fill Comments Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 09:42:24 +0100 Message-ID: <20201201084224.GA26076@tuxteam.de> References: <871rgd6jzk.fsf@web.de> <87r1oclvkp.fsf@web.de> <87blffzq7f.fsf@web.de> <87wny2r1a1.fsf@web.de> <236fb79f-014c-412f-9c78-fd9c774a57fc@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23409"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 01 09:43:16 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kk1Fi-0005yi-BS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 09:43:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56596 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kk1Fh-0005id-EA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 03:43:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41596) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kk1F5-0005h8-6U for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 03:42:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:44668) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kk1F2-0005sN-Pu for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 03:42:34 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:Date; bh=IuXy9rRIPfenx/pEbB03XQXhbxD42iI3bbipTFIdF5I=; b=qlwzn+crLb9zH8S1opNRPkN/3qdOALx9PETvJhJp8GglBAUO/iRuSP6NudrJile2Pq7OP4ZWUlNe6S7LoIx4FAbj9qNTcaXaDeNJ6kQ2nqqpTpUFI9Z8CpI0liwTjWDLA0D+jG6JsgKIfg7QAQABn0F/AZVhMG7SZbSMb081atYt7OCb2JBd14RDrOBzj4RKiue4Hd2mV2Hr1Jdg4Gt8KuowWM/ky7+GCRoaRxod4xjFpqpqNFgp5pUbXpw0obDIphASAPy0z7HzBVFe5covuZu+pW8OjTQ7vVOkoE3C8lCb8MwfDDKYnRYS+OjokWqf36wFRntuwWBBn0FBaRBVVA==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1kk1Eu-0006tR-3l for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 09:42:24 +0100 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:125787 Archived-At: --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 12:22:11AM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote: > That's a great example. We can have a function that sets fill-column > as buffer-local and hook it to programming mode, c-mode say. Why mix a mode in? This makes the example unnecessarily complex. Just fill-column, buffer-local, that's it. > That would > be a useful example. And users can try it out and see things work. >=20 > Yes, it is repeating and RTFM, but with a serious code example to excite > people to write actual code after the prose. The interesting challenge is that different people have diverse approaches at learning. Covering as much ground as possible without exploding in size (which would hinder learning, too) is that Herculean task. That's probably why there's more than 1 book. I claim the Emacs folks have done an outstanding job with the two manuals and the introduction /on top of/ the whole "live" doc (docstrings, ref to source, etc.). The only software projects I could name rivalling that doc would be Don Knuth's TeX and METAFONT, but they are (one? several?) orders of magnitude less complex than Emacs at this point. Cheers - t --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAl/GAfAACgkQBcgs9XrR2ka1swCfX3fb0yQP3Rx9dzjzQ+J5ZQaH 5cEAn2hD4M+g5y3ksF1qtXIhGmFgfYZ6 =UeWo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK--