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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:259055 Archived-At: On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 08:37:36PM +0000, Gregory Heytings wrote: > >> >>If someone wants to claim that display of completion candidates by >>icomplete-vertical, ivy, etc. is anywhere near as pretty as what you >>get when you click on the address bar of a browser and get the >>drop-down list of candidates, then I can only say that I cannot >>disagree more. >> > >But why??? I just tried Ivy again, AFAICS it has everything you have >in the drop-down list of a browser: the matching substring is >colorized, you can use the mouse to click on a candidate to select it, >you can use the mouse to scroll the list up and down... What am I >missing? Indeed, I don't see any important visual "disadvantage" in ivy appearance compared with what is around. Plus ivy adds some exclusive features like the M-o actions, avy integration (avy was created the same author) and hydra integration (also from same author). IMO (I already said that) we should put more attention to ivy if we want a better/pretty completion already working. Ivy solves details like the scrolling, long prompt, long like candidates and so on... There is also an extension for ivy: ivy-postframe [1] which shows the completions in a postframe (of course). And the appearance is (IMO) as good as anything else around. [1]: https://github.com/tumashu/ivy-posframe BTW: The postframe creator asked in this list some days ago about adding the package to elpa . All the contributors got the copyright already; but I don't know if he received any reply to proceed. You can see the thread: https://github.com/tumashu/ivy-posframe/issues/95