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From: Boruch Baum <boruch_baum@gmx.com>
To: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Emacs-Devel List <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Friendlier dired experience [CODE INCLUDED]
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 04:42:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201106094214.cnw3lzf5bklps73y@E15-2016.optimum.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB4526536A89758CB5AA069C3B96EE0@VI1PR06MB4526.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

On 2020-11-05 13:54, Arthur Miller wrote:
> Boruch Baum <boruch_baum@gmx.com> writes:
> > My memory from looking at it years ago was that it was non-functioning
> > abandon-ware.
> No idea if it is abandon-ware; I don't use it; I used some year ago and it
> was quite competent.
>
> Looking at github, it seems like last commit was ~6 month ago:
>
> https://github.com/sunrise-commander/sunrise-commander

Thanks!

> How do you do bookmarks? I just bookmarked a folder with your shortcut
> C-c b a; and the bookmark does not show in bookmarks list.

That's right. It's a separate diredc-only bookmark list.

> furthermore, when I use C-c b j; it seems to show some byte code, you
> can see it in the attached screenshot.

That *is* weird. I can't reproduce it. Any hints?

> opening new frame in the bacgkround is not really the best feel. It
> didn't got neither raised nor focused.

Fixed.

> Also my original frame got resized and centered on the screen, and
> diredc took place of the original frame (but in background and not focused).

Wait a second. This email sounds familiar. Did I already respond to this?

> The dual pane wasn't so resilient; at least not to Gnus (nothing is
> :-)). After switching to Gnus and back I was left with a single window.
> I am not sure if I understand the docs correctly: is it supposed to
> restore window layout and buffers automatically or do I need to take an
> action? It didn't happened automatically so I tried diredc-restore. I
> was than ask a question to choose between starting a new or choosing two
> panes or something else. I choose two-pane, but I wasn't left with same
> buffers after it executed.
>
> After I switched to the mail to continue writing it again switched to
> just one window. When I switched back it was still just one window. I
> then tried running again diredc (C-x 5 d); it just moved my cursor back
> to old frame. Running again diredc moved cursor back to second frame but
> it never switched back to dual pane nor to original buffers I had in
> diredc. I am sure I am using it wrong, but I don't see in the
> accompanying docs how to switch between buffers and go back to dual-pane
> and original buffers.
>
> In connection to this, looking at those predefined variables; I am not
> sure I find it really useful; you can see below what diredc exported
> when I run it for the first time:
>
> export d1="~/repos/emacs-related/emacs-diredc/" d2="" f1="~/repos/emacs-related/emacs-diredc/README.md" f2="" t1="(/home/arthur/repos/emacs-related/emacs-diredc/README.md)" t2="nil"
>
> sh-5.0$ sh-5.0$ sh-5.0$
>
> Documentation says they are useful dired values - but in which way are they
> useful? Do I really need to export a shortcut to a README file if I am
> already using Emacs? Am I supposed to open current file from the shell
> in new Eamcs instance, or what was the intended workflow?
>
> Sorry if I am obnoxious; these are just questions I was left with after
> tryimg it.
>
> Something positive:
>
> I like your C-c C-k and '; I'll steal it for my own hack of term-toggle,
> thanks! :-). I have eshell on F2 and term on F1, but ' was really nice;
> I think I'll use it instead of F2.
>
> >> History handling: can it not be handled by recentf/winner modes already?
> >
> > I've been a long-time happy user of winner, and found the answer to be
> > no. Winner operates on all windows of a frame, not just the current
> > dired buffer. Thus, if you had in your window configuration history
> > temporary quick-shell buffer-windows or quick-file-view buffer-windows,
> > they would pop in and out if you were using winner-undo to navigate
> > sequentially in your dired history. Also, does winner-mode have a
> > quick-jump to a specific history element?
> >
> >> I am not particulary against custom history handling, but recentf
> >> already does it and winner has undo/redo stack maybe they can be reused?
> >
> > When I had tried recentf years ago, I was disappointed that its only
> > interface was the ncurses menu. Is that still the case? In any event,
> > a recentf menu will include ALL recently visited items, so that list
> > will be a mixture of emacs files and dired buffers and who knows what
> > else; a user would need to visually filter out the path-names ending
> > with a file from those ending with a directory ...
> We have Helm + fuzzy search to filter those out ...
>
> >> Other functionality I would like to see is some from dired-hacks: toggle
> >> and filters.
> >
> > What do you mean by "toggles and filters"?
> https://github.com/Fuco1/dired-hacks#dired-subtree
> https://github.com/Fuco1/dired-hacks#dired-filter


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-06  9:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-03 10:43 Friendlier dired experience [CODE INCLUDED] Boruch Baum
2020-11-03 10:54 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-03 11:15   ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-03 11:32     ` Joost Kremers
2020-11-03 12:22       ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-03 16:07     ` Jean Louis
2020-11-03 17:12       ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-03 19:31         ` Jean Louis
2020-11-03 21:13           ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-04  8:10             ` Jean Louis
2020-11-04  8:54               ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-04  9:57                 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-04 10:39                   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-04 13:17                     ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-04 15:32                       ` Joost Kremers
2020-11-04 15:58                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-04 17:23                         ` Jean Louis
2020-11-04 17:15                       ` Jean Louis
2020-11-04 15:28                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-03 11:24   ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-03 15:10 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-03 16:10   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-03 17:16     ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-03 17:59       ` Michael Albinus
2020-11-03 19:10         ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-03 19:49           ` Jean Louis
2020-11-04  6:08             ` Pankaj Jangid
2020-11-04 19:57           ` Michael Albinus
2020-11-04 20:18             ` Yuri Khan
2020-11-04 20:29               ` Michael Albinus
2020-11-05  8:54             ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-05 10:11               ` Jean Louis
2020-11-05 13:31               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-04 19:28       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-04 19:39         ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-05 15:00           ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-06  9:34             ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-04 18:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-04 18:32   ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-04 18:55     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-05  8:05       ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-05  9:22         ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-05 12:54           ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-05 13:34             ` Jean Louis
2020-11-05 14:38             ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-05 15:05               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-05 15:34                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-05 15:45                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-05 16:18                     ` Adam Porter
2020-11-05 17:02                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-05 17:09                         ` Drew Adams
2020-11-05 17:08                       ` Drew Adams
2020-11-05 16:19                     ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-05 17:56                       ` Jean Louis
2020-11-05 17:08                     ` Drew Adams
2020-11-06  9:15                 ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-06 14:14                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-06 16:28                   ` Drew Adams
2020-11-06 19:43                     ` Adam Porter
2020-11-06 20:24                       ` Drew Adams
2020-11-06 20:57                         ` Adam Porter
2020-11-07  0:30                           ` Daniel Martín
2020-11-08  9:36                     ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-08 12:09                       ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-08 12:40                         ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-08 13:37                           ` Jean Louis
2020-11-08 16:48                             ` Drew Adams
2020-11-08 18:26                               ` on hyperlinks (bookmarks) Jean Louis
2020-11-08 19:47                                 ` Drew Adams
2020-11-08 20:26                                   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-08 13:45                           ` Friendlier dired experience [CODE INCLUDED] Arthur Miller
2020-11-08 16:48                       ` Drew Adams
2020-11-08 17:37                         ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-08 19:24                           ` Drew Adams
2020-11-05 15:29               ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-05 16:25                 ` Adam Porter
2020-11-05 16:47                   ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-05 18:00                   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-05 18:56                     ` Adam Porter
2020-11-05 19:33                       ` Jean Louis
2020-11-06  4:55                     ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-06  9:49                 ` Boruch Baum
2020-11-06  9:42             ` Boruch Baum [this message]
2020-11-05 14:21           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-05  9:56         ` Jean Louis
2020-11-05 17:07         ` Drew Adams
2020-11-08 19:46         ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-08 19:50           ` Sv: " arthur miller
2020-11-09 22:45 ` Mathias Dahl
2020-11-09 23:20   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-10  0:05     ` Drew Adams
2020-11-10  2:31     ` T.V Raman
2020-11-10  6:47       ` Jean Louis
2020-11-11 19:23   ` Juri Linkov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-11-04 17:28 Boruch Baum

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