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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258792 Archived-At: On 2020-11-05 07:00, Stefan Kangas wrote: > Indeed. As soon as it goes into GNU ELPA, anyone could in principle > merge the functionality into Emacs. > > But I had hoped that you would be interested in writing the patches to > do this. You seem well placed to do it, since you are likely to have > studied this recently and know the domain. At this point it's all theoretical. The ELPA+merge idea was Stefan Monnier's, but he admitted that he didn't have a notion what parts should be merged and that he doesn't even use dired, so there doesn't yet seem to be any beginning of a plan or roadmap or even agreed-upon wish-list or actual user-base (though the package has started a lot of discussion on this list, none of it had been expressions of enthusiasm for actually using it). Outside the list, I've only otherwise mentioned it on the emacs-w3m list, and the only positive feed-back I've received is about eight people 'starring' the repository on github. I've no idea how many people tried it and rejected it, or liked it but didn't 'star' it. =2D- hkp://keys.gnupg.net CA45 09B5 5351 7C11 A9D1 7286 0036 9E45 1595 8BC0