From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?B?U2HFoWEgSmFuacWha2E=?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Can't send mail with smtpmail "any more" (Gmail and other providers) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 14:30:30 +0100 Message-ID: <20201101143030.04431376@atmarama.ddns.net> References: <83mu07em37.fsf@gnu.org> <20201101133443.3a81f3af@atmarama.ddns.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/=6.UNcivOjtrNQZiPrTsCds"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10914"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 01 14:32:32 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kZDTD-0002ih-OS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 14:32:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37702 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kZDTC-0000HX-O5 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 08:32:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35310) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kZDRS-0000FP-Tb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 08:30:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.wservices.ch ([2a01:4f8:222:274b::2]:57287) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kZDRP-0000ml-84 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 08:30:41 -0500 Original-Received: from atmarama.ddns.net (unknown [94.250.174.243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.wservices.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 74B99141AE1 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2020 14:30:33 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f8:222:274b::2; envelope-from=gour@atmarama.com; helo=mail.wservices.ch X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. 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X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:124859 Archived-At: --Sig_/=6.UNcivOjtrNQZiPrTsCds Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 1 Nov 2020 16:05:01 +0300 Jean Louis wrote: > M-x rmail is quite good client for email handling in Emacs. >=20 > Then there is: >=20 > M-x mh-rmail which may have many good power users' options Yeah, I heard goof things about those, but they seem a bit isolated when/if one wants to switch to something else? > For me, due to nature of my email handling and having over 50000 > Maildir directories inside of ~/Maildir and that none of Emacs clients > is handling Maildirs, I am using mutt email client.=20 What about notmuch or mu4e which can use Maildirs (with the help of e.g. mbsync)? > That is one of most efficient for me. And I am launching it inside of > Emacs and editing files with Emacs by using emacsclient I'd be happy with (neo)mutt, but would miss (better) integration with org-mode? > msmtp is excellent tool and handles queues of email even if connection > to Internet is sporadic. MTAs need to be configured to handled mail in > queues for longer time and for that reason some emails could be lost > or returned back. I believe that for my volume of mail, msmtp is good-enough. :-) Sincerely, Gour --=20 The spirit soul bewildered by the influence of false ego thinks himself the doer of activities that are in actuality carried out by the three modes of material nature. --Sig_/=6.UNcivOjtrNQZiPrTsCds Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEWDpE0TZF+khoOctpNyVpzrf8dgUFAl+euHYACgkQNyVpzrf8 dgUV/w/9EmNU0g2E2yrYKxcj8C1nBjqe0pgEqiBogqwdgzYy0iM96rOxFvGR+xsb D8ComdUEpY7r4r0jIhJXf6H9DluwQx+LTqSA3X91sHmMoMmyYxzRHxALq3OtioMY Kh100gJOYpI37wzP8Pb0qp9ri13F5C/gDTFW2ViZUb5UXS/dGwMKTfYnK8d+Bmgw 2aB1isYQEcJJytkEdFeY2Zye39Smxts1fNuhGto1DL0YiwmJnLTFQm0V//NwGjyb PKZx211oFZBnDf4BeO5q8JmBj2bpaTS75tnfV/5T5A7sY+VW8yUhBfcLfl8MkvMb MN/2vksFxQ2NFleYsDylczUwoyfd65PTlXAXBMgw8fp6dyagjlWmcStjtbMUtOWp 8hMGRTOFM5fva1DBztSsdpCTqvKyBJ8ZCMalT/gIrhQAZOSXU+pBm9jjVxEqxTn1 +4Tr3vj9fXS0FSks7Jg2MIOHNHC/HCMHoYuR8mzrkiGwe1nk/dYbAMHTheJE11x+ n8cHKaFNiYqcSANyhKd3M6wFFwdO/I0/tg+F4oBe+2wzsOkvvYcEYF/aKGWgtRsk pZ23PU4OI2kMleJHfoOnBJbS47VGUt1L6FQ33iBcHidM1ov6blDsv1S6+np0aHfZ 8cPMx+CxUq3C0qvds0M/Mc/DTNa5ejQM7L/KeBdo5DrTbkilnGA= =qwAw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/=6.UNcivOjtrNQZiPrTsCds--