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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258210 Archived-At: On 2020-10-21 07:52, K=E9vin Le Gouguec wrote: > Boruch Baum writes: > > > On 2020-10-18 22:40, K=E9vin Le Gouguec wrote: > >> Boruch Baum writes: > >> > >> >> and I'm not exactly sure what using Org-mode buys us in this case. > >> > > >> > For starters: Navigation, expansion and collapse of sections. > >> > >> FWIW, outline-mode now features section-cycling commands (TAB and S-T= AB) > >> that are very similar to org-mode's (cf. bug#41130). > > > > I'm OK with trying to use outline-minor-mode, but didn't see the > > features yet in my version of emacs-snapshot. > > Right, those commands are only bound for the major mode (outline-mode). > If section cycling and navigation commands are the main thing drawing > you to org-mode for this feature, maybe outline-mode is enough? OK. I see the reason I didn't see the feature was that the commit wasn't pushed until 2020-10-19. =2D- hkp://keys.gnupg.net CA45 09B5 5351 7C11 A9D1 7286 0036 9E45 1595 8BC0