From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for an Emacs User Survey Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 15:04:29 +0300 Message-ID: <20201011120429.GB2923@protected.rcdrun.com> References: <87ft6m9xmy.fsf@posteo.net> <87362ldxrq.fsf@logand.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11919"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.14.0 (2020-05-02) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tomas Hlavaty Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 11 14:06:25 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kRa7N-000329-HG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 14:06:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48174 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRa7M-00061s-Jp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 08:06:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41886) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRa6B-0005UX-1B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 08:05:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [95.85.24.50] (port=58393 helo=static.rcdrun.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRa66-0004jT-Nx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 08:05:08 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.0.35]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by static.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000002A0B37.000000005F82F4F0.00001F2C; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 12:05:03 +0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87362ldxrq.fsf@logand.com> X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 95.85.24.50 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.85.24.50; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=static.rcdrun.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/11 06:33:13 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: 4 X-Spam_score: 0.4 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.5, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257357 Archived-At: * Tomas Hlavaty [2020-10-11 10:33]: > On Sat 10 Oct 2020 at 12:35, "Philip K." wrote: > > That could be mitigated with a "graceful degradation" approach, since > > most people do have javascript activated by default. > > it should be possible to fill in the survey from emacs > > emacs does not support executing javascript code If any website functions only with Javascript, people would launch external browser from Emacs, thus jumping to Javascript which could be non-free. > many people do have javascript disabled by default Many is vague, and I am sure it is true, but "many" does not represent majority, you have to think of default settings in major browsers, if they have Javascript turned on, majority have Javascript turned on, regardless how many have it disabled. > many people just close and ignore pages that require javascript I agree, though many is not equal to majority. > would not it be nice to be able to reply to the survey from emacs? Yes, please. > for example, could the survey work similar to report-emacs-bug where > the template is taken from somewhere dynamically from existing > infrastructure (instead of extra web server), e.g. using a reference > to a message on emacs-survey@gnu.org? Exactly good idea.