From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New multi-command facility displays in the wrong echo area. Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 13:47:27 +0000 Message-ID: <20201010134727.GD5662@ACM> References: <20201009163445.GB4027@ACM> <20201009203810.GC4027@ACM> <83imbi609a.fsf@gnu.org> <20201010103233.GB5662@ACM> <834kn25o6b.fsf@gnu.org> <20201010124446.GC5662@ACM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37200"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 10 15:48:25 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kRFEW-0009aa-Ko for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2020 15:48:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41398 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRFEU-0006Wn-K1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2020 09:48:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38708) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRFDh-00064k-Dr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2020 09:47:33 -0400 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:41051 helo=mail.muc.de) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRFDe-0003C3-9H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2020 09:47:33 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 54629 invoked by uid 3782); 10 Oct 2020 13:47:28 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p2e5d5308.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [46.93.83.8]) by localhost.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Sat, 10 Oct 2020 15:47:27 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 6478 invoked by uid 1000); 10 Oct 2020 13:47:27 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de Received-SPF: pass client-ip=193.149.48.1; envelope-from=acm@muc.de; helo=mail.muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/10 08:44:47 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = FreeBSD 9.x or newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257326 Archived-At: Hello, Gregory. On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 13:03:49 +0000, Gregory Heytings wrote: > > When just the isearch is active, f10 does indeed work. When, > > additionally, C-x b is active on another frame, it throws the error > > "Command attempted to use minibuffer while in minibuffer". This is > > surely correct. However, the isearch highlighting doesn't get removed > > in this error case. That is incorrect. > It's not removed because isearch is not aborted. You can continue your > isearch or abort it with C-g. That's a difference indeed: in earlier > Emacsen isearch would have aborted in this case. Which one is better is > not clear to me. Sorry, yes, you're sort of right, here. But in this scenario, typing C-b or C-a moves the cursor without terminating the isearch. That is definitely incorrect. > >> Yet another similar use case is when you type "C-x 8 RET" during > >> Isearch: that reads the character's name/codepoint from the minibuffer. > > This goes wrong. With C-x b active on frame F1, move to F2, start an > > isearch, C-x 8 RET, use TAB completion to select a character and RET. > > This displays > > Switch to buffer (default xdisp.c): [Failing I-search: su�] > > on F2. On terminating the isearch and completing the C-x b action in > > F2's minibufer, the buffer switch has worked in frame F1. > It doesn't go wrong, it has moved the minibuffer from frame F1 to frame > F2. The minibuffer's contents, the C-x b, is acting on F1. It is surely wrong to have moved the minibuffer to F2. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).