From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Question collaborative editing - Wikipedia reference Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 22:48:15 +0300 Message-ID: <20201004194815.GH15516@protected.rcdrun.com> References: <20200929215849.zg4wzytbrwx2b7ih@Ergus> <84B86B7C-81F0-42DF-894C-BF577E4B3D6E@mit.edu> <83a6x7js6y.fsf@gnu.org> <83eemji6e8.fsf@gnu.org> <20201001141144.GO4797@protected.rcdrun.com> <20201001160136.chwmpollk4d3qc2e@Ergus> <20201004175447.GG15516@protected.rcdrun.com> <87362tvnil.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16091"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.14.0 (2020-05-02) Cc: Ergus , fmfs@posteo.net, Qiantan Hong , emacs-devel@gnu.org, kfogel@red-bean.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, npostavs@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii To: Caio Henrique Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 04 21:49:51 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kPA10-000466-Qw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 04 Oct 2020 21:49:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36080 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kPA0z-0008TM-Sb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 04 Oct 2020 15:49:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59210) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kP9zj-00080A-LT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Oct 2020 15:48:31 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:43405) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kP9zh-000317-6k; Sun, 04 Oct 2020 15:48:31 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.34.178]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 000000000005A13D.000000005F7A2703.00002202; Sun, 04 Oct 2020 12:48:18 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87362tvnil.fsf@gmail.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/04 12:59:48 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257052 Archived-At: * Caio Henrique [2020-10-04 21:45]: > Jean Louis writes: > > > If anybody has practical use from real life, I would like to know > > about it. > > Last week a friend and I had to write together a text document for a > university class. We used google meet to talk and google docs to work on > the text document at the same time. That was very efficient and we > finished our work in just a couple of hours. This use case is very > common in my university. Thank you for description of the practical use case. Alright. It would not work for me. That would mean that I would expose my information from business to Google servers, and I have no clue of security. I have just tried Gobby editor, it works well for collaboration in real-time, and by launching it creates the server. By the way, for talking I would use self-hosted Mumble server, client works with every device. > None of my friends use Emacs (they use libreoffice, notepad, vim, ms word > etc), so an Emacs-to-Emacs only collabaration system would not be useful > for me. libreoffice and vim are free software Who uses notepad, does not need more than notepad. MsWord is proprietary software, I would never recommend students to get dependent on such. Thus good solution for time being would be Gobby and Jitsi or Mumble speech servers, both are free software.