From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to make Emacs popular again. Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2020 11:28:05 +0300 Message-ID: <20201003082805.GB32715@protected.rcdrun.com> References: <835z7vjrg3.fsf@gnu.org> <83tuvegkmo.fsf@gnu.org> <20201002160750.GI3520@protected.rcdrun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21893"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.14.0 (2020-05-02) Cc: philipk@posteo.net, eduardoochs@gmail.com, spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, ams@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru, eliz@gnu.org, jamtlu@gmail.com To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 03 10:29:34 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kOcv8-0005bs-EX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 03 Oct 2020 10:29:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56266 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kOcv7-0001hQ-Gj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 03 Oct 2020 04:29:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55654) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kOctu-0000r6-VH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Oct 2020 04:28:19 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:53167) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kOcts-0001bk-Bb; Sat, 03 Oct 2020 04:28:18 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.34.178]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000099F48.000000005F78361B.0000098C; Sat, 03 Oct 2020 01:28:10 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/03 03:47:46 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256991 Archived-At: * Richard Stallman [2020-10-03 05:57]: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > There is module wikimedia that then can use the Wiktionary as database > > and serve such through localhost server. > > What format does that use for the copy it downloads? I have asked Sergey, developer of wikimedia module to provide more information. > > So the solution is already there. > > WHen it comes to downloading a copy of Wiktionary, > it makes a big difference what format you use. > The smallest format that can be searched quickly enough > is the best format. > > The .zim file for Wiktionary from June 2018 (the newest version > available a year ago) is 4408344149. > In download.kiwix.org I see that the most complete version is 5.5 G. > > How does the format dico uses compare with that? We will know when Sergey, developer of wikimedia module for GNU Dico answers to me. dictd or RFC 2229 format is not as nice as ZIM files, it gives textual definition, like this one below, without hyperlinks: Found one definition >From en.wiktionary.org: [Computer] ** English *** Etymology >From [en]. *** Pronunciation - [UK] [en] - [en] - [US] [en] - [en] - [en] - [en] *** Noun [en-noun] 1. [en] A person employ ed to perform computation s; one who compute s. [from 17th c.] 2. * [en] 3. * 1927 , J. B. S. Haldane, _Possible Worlds and Other Essays_ , page 173 4. *: Only a few years ago Mr. Powers, an American COMPUTER , disproved a hypothesis about prime numbers which had held the field for more than 250 years. 5. * 2003 , [Bill Bryson] , _A Short History of Nearly Everything_ , BCA, page 116: 6. *: One Harvard COMPUTER , Annie Jump Cannon, used her repetitive acquaintance with the stars to devise a system of stellar classifications so practical that it is still in use today. 7. [en] A male computer, where the female computer is called a computress . 8. A programmable electronic device that performs mathematical calculation s and logical operation s, especially one that can process , store and retrieve large amounts of data very quickly; now especially, a small one for personal or home use employed for manipulating text or graphics, accessing the Internet, or playing games or media. [from 20th c.]