From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 18:07:14 +0300 Message-ID: <20200929150714.GD383@localhost> References: <916af7e9-961b-44e5-ab11-0f128f52a8fe@default> <39133459-6582-4772-b2bf-03eb123cb22b@default> <20200928220307.GD18207@protected.rcdrun.com> <83ft71l3cf.fsf@gnu.org> <20200929041613.GH18207@protected.rcdrun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6190"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.14.2 (2020-05-25) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, alexander.adolf@condition-alpha.com, rms@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 20 13:29:01 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kUpp7-0001Uc-L6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 13:29:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56168 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kUpp6-0005Tg-O9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 07:29:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54230) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kUpoD-0004dh-0J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 07:28:05 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:40131) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kUpoB-0001bs-E5; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 07:28:04 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.51]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 000000000005616C.000000005F8EC9BF.00000A70; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 04:27:59 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/20 07:27:48 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: 15 X-Spam_score: 1.5 X-Spam_bar: + X-Spam_report: (1.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DATE_IN_PAST_96_XX=3.405, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258183 Archived-At: * Alfred M. Szmidt [2020-09-29 11:24]: > I think it is safe to assume that those who can read the Emacs Manual > also are able to read English -- or for that matter look up basic > words in a dictionary. > > Emacs info could for example tell somewhere at beginning that > technical words could be looked up by using M-x > search-emacs-glossary It just opens the glossary, it does not allow the look up as action. On the Android/LineageOS/Replicant systems, many actions, documents are connected. For example when there is Openkeychain installed, it modifies the long click, which opens Cut, Copy, Paste, and offers "Encrypt" function. It looks like tooltip for actions. In similar fashion, one could put a cursor on a word, activate function and look it up in dictionaries. I am using Emacs for reading, for example there is popular book Tom Sawyer that I recommend to many to read, now they moe on the unknown word and sooner or later they give up reading due to misunderstanding. If words can be quickly defined, they can be understood. Look up function built in into Emacs would Emacs excellent teaching or learning tool.