From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Third Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A modern-mode? Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 20:17:43 +0100 Message-ID: <20200917191743.GC635@breton.holly.idiocy.org> References: <87v9ge3tet.fsf@gkayaalp.com> <83bli57dug.fsf@gnu.org> <20200916213609.GA635@breton.holly.idiocy.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26306"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Thibaut Verron , "mardani29@yahoo.es" , "self@gkayaalp.com" , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel , "akrl@sdf.org" To: arthur miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 17 21:18:39 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kIzQU-0006ho-KA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 21:18:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55188 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIzQT-0000S3-IY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 15:18:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48992) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIzPn-0008Rb-BK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 15:17:55 -0400 Original-Received: from wilbur.contactoffice.com ([212.3.242.68]:36266) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIzPl-0000kd-2q; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 15:17:54 -0400 Original-Received: from smtpauth2.co-bxl (smtpauth2.co-bxl [10.2.0.24]) by wilbur.contactoffice.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A020B2B; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 21:17:47 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1600370267; s=20200222-6h9o; d=idiocy.org; i=alan@idiocy.org; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:In-Reply-To; l=620; bh=LBmeVdSlWvFevffAZcyyUuX8fRFuFt7JJXV+DgCzzAU=; b=oF9jzWaMFivIwVUGdQMzBg4Gjq82LhRoecY2kS2n9H2n9Qny8dato3q5Ij3PvAmR Pu7QSuIx0M65KnYsE6FeUR2im4Sg/DifbWv8LDqE31c6uelHKPhDh7TEBcjv+p3nUzD qOdjL8dD09ztU3icD/B2E2Z47QumkitNl2FSYqnoU8E21VPPAO8ZsV+svnSvggpl4Q5 u63P20AC4qGKmcmGIme5BODLWGBlqt2dePGZJ1/39eMQq0y1UD9ALtbewuI3bsaOq3V ZSKkKIO4v7yepaCHn8ifljBye7K5C51T7Vd/DhTr8I+sW5CfFhqOZprqXT9Sxb2WgVf Uf9ONH6GxQ== Original-Received: by smtp.mailfence.com with ESMTPA ; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 21:17:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by breton.holly.idiocy.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 8033F202563078; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 20:17:43 +0100 (BST) Mail-Followup-To: Alan Third , arthur miller , Thibaut Verron , "self@gkayaalp.com" , "akrl@sdf.org" , Eli Zaretskii , "mardani29@yahoo.es" , emacs-devel Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-ContactOffice-Account: com:241649512 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.3.242.68; envelope-from=alan@idiocy.org; helo=wilbur.contactoffice.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/17 15:17:47 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256023 Archived-At: On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 12:11:04AM +0000, arthur miller wrote: > Isn't what you describe just ordinary Emacs usage? I mean we use > Emacs, we grow out of default features and turn off/on stuff after > hand as our knowledge and skills ? > > By the way, why would anyone turn off features and then recreate > them in their init file? It seems like very convoluted use case to > me. As opposed to turning on features with a theme then turning them off again in their init file? I've seen enough people ask how to implement spacemacs/doom features in vanilla Emacs to know that this happens. -- Alan Third