From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Third Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A modern-mode? Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 17:30:28 +0100 Message-ID: <20200916163028.GM93185@breton.holly.idiocy.org> References: <87v9ge3tet.fsf@gkayaalp.com> <83sgbh7py4.fsf@gnu.org> <874knxsqc6.fsf@gnus.org> <83imcd7mi9.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40919"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: self@gkayaalp.com, Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen , ams@gnu.org To: Andrea Corallo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 16 18:32:33 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kIaMC-000AWH-MB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 18:32:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54022 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIaMB-0007yf-GH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 12:32:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55044) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIaKd-0006uK-Sm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 12:30:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout-l3b-97.contactoffice.com ([212.3.242.97]:37180) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIaKU-0001SP-59; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 12:30:55 -0400 Original-Received: from smtpauth2.co-bxl (smtpauth2.co-bxl [10.2.0.24]) by mailout-l3b-97.contactoffice.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAAABD0A; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 18:30:33 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1600273833; s=20200222-6h9o; d=idiocy.org; i=alan@idiocy.org; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:In-Reply-To; l=878; bh=SkRf+lvarpDkdOxIz4/ZqTDBkP1dDlNtGQwlgNr0eA8=; b=P37zgNH2MznV3oyNJub0oYqJIJIvBf6rs0dqMF1mfQZkhoav1PesrNsD4J4BPd5+ 7i6BRS6kpbo9fJvHIvciVwLtWbCtA9xAxf1XKxUUIl9qGmVwu0V4GYOySJ8dS6qIoLn sCD1xXdegxRSxhepzoXKujedIuG+fTyE+R9fMT24MwS8KmLN675WgUQWLcS37mrlInl T7L5qqsk3es3dWTZ2njFHToNTvhIMZx3G+aUIpxjvsXU6RbGFSOBGCSC4XfMBca4qLW RlCndbUCDtbU4O/lhBEzmuUoZaARocm4t7YLzKdaoh3SN2hoFOOZq72jvDMXMlBM8Ty NJcwXIONVg== Original-Received: by smtp.mailfence.com with ESMTPA ; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 18:30:31 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by breton.holly.idiocy.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 14E98202553463; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 17:30:28 +0100 (BST) Mail-Followup-To: Alan Third , Andrea Corallo , Eli Zaretskii , Lars Ingebrigtsen , self@gkayaalp.com, ams@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-ContactOffice-Account: com:241649512 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.3.242.97; envelope-from=alan@idiocy.org; helo=mailout-l3b-97.contactoffice.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/16 12:30:33 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255908 Archived-At: On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 03:54:28PM +0000, Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions. wrote: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I'm okay with that if we drop the "modern" part. How about > > emacs-2021-mode? > > I like this one too :) But would still be possible to have it enabled > with a command line option? I mean if every new release we have a new > version of this mode (theme?) either we loose this ability or we have > the command line option binded to the most recent one. Easy, make it "emacs -2021", then in a few years when we decide that's no longer modern looking we can add "emacs -2023", and so on forever. ;) Personally I dislike the idea of turning it on with a command line option, I'd rather we just give them a customize option linked from the splash screen or whatever, merging two competing proposals. -- Alan Third