From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Third Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A modern-mode? Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 09:36:58 +0100 Message-ID: <20200916083658.GL93185@breton.holly.idiocy.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36932"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Andrea Corallo To: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 16 10:38:24 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kISxM-0009Yu-EY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 10:38:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54852 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kISxL-0006Nf-GB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 04:38:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33242) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kISwA-0005HE-7j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 04:37:10 -0400 Original-Received: from wilbur.contactoffice.com ([212.3.242.68]:44494) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kISw6-00074y-Ts; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 04:37:09 -0400 Original-Received: from smtpauth2.co-bxl (smtpauth2.co-bxl [10.2.0.24]) by wilbur.contactoffice.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F001473; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 10:37:02 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1600245422; s=20200222-6h9o; d=idiocy.org; i=alan@idiocy.org; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:In-Reply-To; l=396; bh=+qR3TcOOb7RBSPAXE8CDsPtmiqo36fli4PcFaf5AWMs=; b=XcNDi9RUUPCVoAmN9iY+NAtbZP9Ou3N10ISYhjvyNWZwr4HiAk4CskwRZ3kMLbLa qyo0kzysTQv7p+3zdo571K9yjm6+IaLAAgMCmepC6xcKUtbeC9LSnoENtgq/F9K3kiJ TmEs2DeRv2q/skjexYS1oDxTBwuRv4cjm7qKGJPxQe+WsWmKXewPtPNt91rwhY/Bqmc c/GBpymI0WSXKB/dqjR88lYYH+CKZzePCdSXaTBkbWp3NLXjlN7yTtpcIzQSZiwrxVW vNPLpFEQo6AD5va/uBtAM2WOVbp5NAYJEHca2tTl7twif4xU3xsskMkqcxNZdSFiqyu /R2Hke2sRA== Original-Received: by smtp.mailfence.com with ESMTPA ; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 10:37:00 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by breton.holly.idiocy.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 84B5020254D64D; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 09:36:58 +0100 (BST) Mail-Followup-To: Alan Third , "Alfred M. Szmidt" , Andrea Corallo , emacs-devel@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-ContactOffice-Account: com:241649512 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.3.242.68; envelope-from=alan@idiocy.org; helo=wilbur.contactoffice.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/16 04:37:02 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255839 Archived-At: On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 03:36:12AM -0400, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: > The word modern has a negative meaning in that it implies that the > rest of Emacs isn't modern -- why would users ever want to switch of > "modern-mode" and use the un-modern Emacs? Easy-mode as opposed to expert, obviously. ;) Starter-mode Familiar-mode Familiar-defaults-easy-start-mode? ;) -- Alan Third