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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255035 Archived-At: > >I disagree. Once upon a time F10 was the universally accepted way. But everybody wanted to provide a menu and everybody bind it to F10 increasing the probability that someone intercepts it before arriving to emacs. >If nowadays it is another key, or a group of other keys, we could >still provide menus that don't need a mouse. Ok