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envelope-from=boruch_baum@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/09 13:38:47 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:187685 Archived-At: Here a duplicate posting of several messages from the emacs-devel list so = the request doesn't get lost thereq. Should the project decide to approve this and choose which to alias, I could do the coding... =2D---- Forwarded message from Boruch Baum ----- Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2020 13:51:47 -0400 From: Boruch Baum To: Emacs-Devel List Subject: name-space consistency User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 Slightly apropos the current thread opening discussion of things that could be done for emacs v28... Here's an example of an annoying and persistently vexing name-space inconsistency: to highlight based upon a regexp in a buffer, one uses functions from package hi-lock (that a lower-case 'i', not an 'ell') and to highlight the current line within a buffer one uses functions from package hl-line (that's an 'ell', not a lower-case 'i'). Unless you use both often (or have a memory superior to mine), you're bound to mis-type hl-lock or hi-line. Would the project consider aliasing and deprecating one of those name-spaces? Or breaking backward-compatibility and just refactoring one? =2D---- End forwarded message ----- On 2020-09-06 21:04, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2020 13:51:47 -0400 > > From: Boruch Baum > > > > Unless you use both often (or have a memory superior to mine), you're > > bound to mis-type hl-lock or hi-line. > > > > Would the project consider aliasing and deprecating one of those > > name-spaces? Or breaking backward-compatibility and just refactoring > > one? > > The latter is out of the question. The former can be done if there's > enough support for it (but expect some dispute regarding which > variant to prefer ;-). =2D---- End forwarded message ----- On 2020-09-06 14:50, Boruch Baum wrote: > At this point, the 'measured' support on the list is 100%. If you accept > and wait for the mail-in ballots, the final results could take months... > =2D---- End forwarded message ----- =2D- hkp://keys.gnupg.net CA45 09B5 5351 7C11 A9D1 7286 0036 9E45 1595 8BC0