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Dowling" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#29357: Cut and paste problems on Linux on a text virtual console no longer works Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 11:53:31 +0200 Message-ID: <20200817095331.GA723@moocow> References: <20200815085256.65438.qmail@mail.muc.de> <20200816193624.GB3196@moocow> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21716"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Alan Mackenzie , 29357@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 17 11:54:10 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k7bqE-0005Yc-4e for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 11:54:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44568 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k7bqD-0007us-6p for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 05:54:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60236) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k7bq6-0007uj-9S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 05:54:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:47772) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k7bq5-0004XJ-Vv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 05:54:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k7bq5-0004Bh-Va for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 05:54:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Dr. Michael L. 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On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 01:48:30PM -0700, Stefan Kangas wrote: > "Dr. Michael L. Dowling" writes: > > > If I can be of any further assistance I would be willing to try, but I'd > > need somebody to suggest how. > > My idea was simply to test e.g. vim (or some $FOO text editor) and see > how well it works with regards to split screen support. But I guess > they would have to do something similar to us according to what Alan has > reported. So I'm actually not sure that testing it will help much... I've just downloaded vim, and, yes, cut-and-paste works with vim. Personally, I prefer vi as it is POSIX conforming. You can use the vi on any UNIX machine, and cut-and-paste works with the vi on my Linux computers. The trouble with the vi is that it screws up indentation with cut-and-paste. So I've used nano instead, and cut-and-paste works with that, too. For me, the burning question is whether or not others can replicate my experience with emacs. The great thing about Arch Linux is that we configure stuff ourselves. But the danger is that a configuration that is continually being copied with every new computer might well propagate problems resulting from incompatibilities between various software releases. I try to be cautious. On this machine, I copied my old /etc to a subdirectory of /root, and inspected every file before copying and editing. The problem cannot lie with individual user configuration, as my user "joe" only has a .bash_logout that deletes everything except itself, and "joe" suffers from the same problem. ("joe" doesn't have a ~/.emacs file > > I had come to the conclusion that I was one of the last die-hard > > Linux/text-mode/command line users. > > (You might enjoy hearing that RMS also uses Emacs on the Linux console.) Interesting! I have always had a great deal of respect for RMS. Cheers, Mike -- Dr. Michael L. Dowling Gaußstr. 27 38106 Braunschweig Germany