From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: tomas@tuxteam.de Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Making GNUS continue to work with Gmail Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 18:00:14 +0200 Message-ID: <20200812160014.GA748@tuxteam.de> References: <871rkfhkhc.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <875z9p5hnc.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <20200812064201.GA12602@tuxteam.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14554"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 12 18:03:57 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k5tEL-0003gu-26 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2020 18:03:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51914 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k5tEK-0006lN-1o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2020 12:03:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34316) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k5tAu-0001un-OJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2020 12:00:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:58431) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k5tAr-0006wb-En for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2020 12:00:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=fgJtSqpBkKB4t1R1M07IiWJxe0jZ7aKrXzkU63lkdEk=; b=XX6Uo6SKIOzZnTxz8+xFBSlNTtT1BlbPVuyOJFhB1wWr0I454ZNylkflDS5FpsN3LskpDZe5EvDZz9hgpfzfZhMe2q9kO/sneC3f/SfBUVbdcddYmlfXsvKk1AwNXY1OBD9jQZsSqt6GfMvhhuC10yYj3UPoCfWdPfMxq22MEbPZ/SXCnjusu632bswoo5/cSucY5qdrAIMeowxljzgKWQxsuiC0tV/RdPwgGT3lStTv7bCixmksz21gCJc2xT534xmJ6LpKBvRAumstDRoIB0w6kISDntRcPRa5w9KpNwfM+WsDTc4MAG3O9HTnZaRvu7WmiNSVPYRx53SfH5N1UA==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1k5tAk-0000M4-30; Wed, 12 Aug 2020 18:00:14 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/08/12 12:00:19 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:253694 Archived-At: --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 02:11:01PM +0200, Arthur Miller wrote: > writes: >=20 > > On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 03:41:25AM +0000, arthur miller wrote: > >> I share your sentiment about using different mail provider. Personally= I have > >> gmail and outlook (live) accounts, but I would rather skip both if I c= ould. > >> Alternative to me is what my ISP offers, but that changes when I switc= h ISP so > >> it is not a "stable" as gmail/outlook. I think that my current ISP doe= s not > >> even offer email service, but I am not sure. > >>=20 > >> I would gladly pay for a "free" email service that guarantees my priva= cy, so somebody should hint FSF/GNU people for possible business opportunit= y here :-). > > > > There are. Depending on your tastes, riseup.net might qualify > > (those are even voluntary contribution). >=20 > That was an interesting offer! On paper that sounds awesome, question is > how long-lasting they will be. You never know. But if past is any indication... they are around since about 2000, so that's twenty years. > Second - who the heck they are? Being > born in a communist/socialist country I am a bit suspect of their > left-rhetorics and anonymous "collective". I do share their ideas, > sentiments and values, but they are completely anoynomous and thus > non-transparent, so how can I trust them? They do have a political slant, true. But they are up-front about it, so each one can decide. [...] > > Search locally: most of those offers aren't "big names" for a > > reason. >=20 > You might be correct. I haven't really being looking around myself. But > I would still prefer to help monetary some organisation I trust (like > FSF/GNU). They are focussed on free software. I don't think they are in the mail provider "business". If you want to host a free project... Savannah might fit the bill. > >> Skickat fr=C3=A5n min Samsung Galaxy-smartphone. > > > > Hey, your phone is posting ads here! Tell him to behave ;-) > Interesting how information is interpretted. I would rather say this was > a pure statement from my phone rather then an ad: it didn't say - go by > me! :-). (I was at the go, didn't have access to Emacs :-)). 't was a bit tongue-in-cheek, although from time to time it becomes a tad tiresome to read all those "this mail was hand-made on that AWESOME y-Phone!!! Nevermind :) Cheers - t --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAl80Eg4ACgkQBcgs9XrR2kb9NgCeOSIH+TGPa/Gjl0KMQchuYFZ+ WQMAnjf3+OmwkfzwfyRXMfsq0bhxKl3l =jMB3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp--