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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:253666 Archived-At: --1UWUbFP1cBYEclgG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:28:40PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] >=20 > > Whether one likes it or not, Outlook is the default email solution > > for many companies and unviersities, including mine. Therefore we > > need to think of a solution that preferably works for more than > > just Gmail. >=20 > We can't even start to think about that in the abstract. > We need a concrete question. >=20 > What public interfaces does Outlook support? Outlook is the client (kind-of MUA). The server is called Exchange [1], which, if the admins are friendly, can support IMAP (well, some sort of Microsoft bastardized IMAP, but which works reasonably). But I've heard that Microsoft is softly trying to push their clients off IMAP (which makes sense, since, as they are losing grip with their (non-)operating system offers, they are trying to re-gain it with their all-in-one enterprise lock-in offers aka Office 356. Cheers [1] I always understood that name as an incitation, as in "Exchange this server, please" - t --1UWUbFP1cBYEclgG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAl8zkHMACgkQBcgs9XrR2kYQtwCfYOa/bEtDM2DcI8QBLszDQubV WMkAn0K3egP4amqVWI2RKY9uXZ6YMDDN =oqCD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1UWUbFP1cBYEclgG--